It seems superflous to use a never operational polish fighter when they ordereed, and used in exile hurricanes withgreat results
It just depends on what is more important, a decent tournament card or a home country domestic unit. The PZL.11 and PZL.23/4 was suggested up thread and those would be terrible early 30's aircraft. At least the PZL.50 would be a mid- to late 30s design. I agree the Hurricane would be more useful. Were there actual Hurricanes in the Polish air force at the time of the German invasion? Or are we just representing yet another RAF Hurricane flown by Polish pilots?
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Wiki says they never reached poland before the invasion, they'd been shipped as far as Romania
In the past that we would have made it a UK RAF card with a Polish flag on the back. Like HMS Nabob. A call out to the all Canadian crew on the back, but not a "Canadian" card. It doesn't really help players that are just looking for "Poland" cards.
HMNoMS Stord was given to the Norwegians because the ship was formally transferred to the Norwegian government in exile.
Wiki says they never reached poland before the invasion, they'd been shipped as far as Romania
In the past that we would have made it a UK RAF card with a Polish flag on the back. Like HMS Nabob. A call out to the all Canadian crew on the back, but not a "Canadian" card. It doesn't really help players that are just looking for "Poland" cards.
HMNoMS Stord was given to the Norwegians because the ship was formally transferred to the Norwegian government in exile.
01 AUSTRALIA -Submarine : Variation of fleet archetypes. -Vultee Vengeance - Dive Bomber - used in Indies/New Guinea - unique aircraft
02 <free>
03 BRAZIL -destroyer : maintain ABC balance, Jurua – DD (H class ) - another "modern" destroyer class for Brazil
04 CANADA
-Commander (tbd) resilience on objective, Commander//Next minor allied nation one that deserves it. Aggressive DD focus, would make some good discussion
05 FRANCE 06 FRANCE 07 FRANCE 08 FRANCE 09 FRANCE -Dixmude - enhance air archetypes -Potez 630/631 -- heavy fighter -Jeanne d'Arc - Jeanne d'Arc class CL - unique cruiser class without a card, support jean d'arc -Savorgnan da Brazza, historical significance fighting for the Free French Navy in Africa and doing convoy work, has an XPForge mini. (Dumont d'urville sister) -La Melpomène - La Melpomène class Torpedo boat - Operation Dynamo, operation Torch, and Operations Overlord and Dragoon
10 GREECE -Bretange class Battleship - resilience on objectives
11 <free>
12 NETHERLANDS 13 NETHERLANDS -goulden leeuw sister battleship - resilence on objectives -D.XXI -- give the Dutch a native fighter -Hr. Ms. Van Kinsbergan - DD/sloop built for, and fought in, the West Indies -sumatra, historical cruiser
16 POLAND -basic fighter - 303Sq Hurricane or P-11 fighter/P-23 karas or PZL.50, Fighter PZL P.11 or Another Spitfire variant? A native aircraft or mid-war aircraft would be good candidate
17 UK 18 UK 19 UK 20 UK 21 UK 22 UK 23 UK 24 UK 25 UK 26 UK -CAM Ship -- Auxiliary with a nice AA attack -Avro Anson - patrol bomber - widely used early war ASW -HMS Fencer variant/Escort carrier -malta class carrier, hypothetical large carrier -HMS Malaya – QE class BB* - Battle of Calabria and Operation Berlin -HMS Starling//Was dropped in Deck G. Purpose adding it again as candidate for Deck H. UK lacks small escort ships, very famous for sinking 14 u-boats
27 USA 28 USA 29 USA 30 USA 31 USA 32 USA 33 USA 34 USA 35 USA 36 USA 37 USA -USS Hutchins -- A Fletcher class DD present at Surigao Strait, but mostly I would just like a high end (9-10 point) damage dealer from the Fletcher class, maybe with Torpedo Savlo or Opening Salvo -USS Tautog - Tambor class submarine - bring Defective Torp 1 SA to subs (also NOT another Gato/Balao) -4-Stacker (whipple, ford, pope) -Brooklyn class cruiser, like Tricki Vic suggested; give the Boises and Phoenixes some variety, Brooklyn Class//Shifting away from Cleveland Class, an underrepresented light cruiser class -uss augusta, historical cruiser -USS Suwanee - Sangamon class CVE - Operation Torch and Taffy 1
38 USSR 39 USSR 40 USSR -Komintern - last Black seas fleet "cruiser" -Almaz/Orlitza/... -- The Imperial Russian Navy had a superb floatplane carrier group in the Black Sea, one of these could make for an interesting Auxiliary -Fighter// Highly suggest a native Soviet aircraft instead of another lend lease -Yak-9 for the late-war/advanced fighter / Lavochkin La-5 or La-7 - solid Soviet fighter La-5 introduced 1942, La-7 in 1944, Fighter// Highly suggest a native Soviet aircraft instead of another lend lease. Like a Mig 3 or La 7 -KB-4 Type A design to get a 50pt-ish BB
41 FINLAND -Vesihiisi - sub (similar to German Type VII - U-47/552 reprint) -Commander - resilience on objectives, Commander//Nation has been in the game for a long time, they deserve to be next nation for a commander, Commander//Nation has been in the game for a long time, they deserve to be next nation for a commander
42 GERMANY - Gneisenau 15in rebuild - BB (lengthened, better AA, no torps) upgrade was actually half-way completed 43 GERMANY 44 GERMANY 45 GERMANY 46 GERMANY 47 GERMANY -MS Schwabenland, Seaplane tender -Grille (Hitler's Yacht) commander - wolfpack or stuka ace?, Commander//I focus this one on submarines. Wolfpack, submarine leader, evasion special abilities, rerolling attacks -BRUMMER cruiser minelayer 3 7 3 decent guns 7 7 6 5?aa6-7 -Niobe …. Hear me out make it an armour 5-6 7 3 AA ship that gains AA specialist and/or even range 1 AA. It would have speed but a placement SA. Cheap protection for your ships -Freya Anti-Air Radar -- An AA/Radar installation, perhaps with Atlantikwall synergy -Torpedoboot 1940, class participated in Operation Cerberus and escort missions -MV Burgenland - Auxiliary (freighter blockade runner sunk by Omaha and Jouette) Class of 6 ships for unlimited class numbers
48 ITALY 49 ITALY 50 ITALY 51 ITALY 52 ITALY 53 ITALY -Fiat RS.14 - Patrol Bomber (float plane ASW) - purpose-built ASW 3 patrol bomber 1941 -marc antony sister - resilience on objectives -Francesco Crespi -- MTB/MAS boat support -Ba.65, early war fighter-bomber, used in Spain and exported abroad to Chile -attilio regulo - light cruiser, flotilla leader/guard the flotilla (sinking of roma) -Enrico Tazzoli - Calvi Class sub (3 in class) Second most successful Italian sub (18 ships sunk) - new ocean going class for the Italians
54 JAPAN 55 JAPAN 58 JAPAN 57 JAPAN 58 JAPAN 59 JAPAN 60 JAPAN 61 JAPAN 62 JAPAN 63 JAPAN -Yugure - DD (Hatsuharu class only missing class) Battle of Kolombagara - helped sink Gwin, damage Honolulu and St. Louis, support yugure -Ibuki CA - big option actually started. -Niizuki -- Another Akizuki class DD, scored the longest range torpedo hit of WW2 -Ki 61 "Tony"//High altitude bomber interceptor that was late in the war but could be useful against the powerful bomber swarms of USA currently in the game
64 ROMANIA -250T torpedo boat - recommended by Rav/expand fleet -Bucovina, a monitor for Romania; potentially an amrour 3 unit, The Romanian river Monitor was made to be ocean going, and was engaged several times throughout the war. Is definitely armour 3 at least -HMS Gorgon (What if the British sold it to them in the 1920's)
65 SIAM -Commander - resilience on objectives -Martin B-10 patrol bomber (also Argentina, Turkey, and Netherlands, Tie bomber either Martin or Ann
66 ARGENTINA -Santa Fe - Santa Fe class sub (new) - Argentina needs a sub destroyer - per brazil
67 CHILE
68 SPAIN -Republican/Nationalist commanders - neutral units can be included in any fleet so a destroyer and cruiser commander from either SCS side would 2 options for everyone -Mendez Nunez AA refit -- this would provide Gray AA and add another universal utility cruiser -Jupiter - Jupiter class gunboat/minelayer
69 SWEDEN -Aran Class Coast defense ship - bigger class than oscar
70 TURKEY - Hamidiye - resilience on objectives
71 <Free> 72 NEUTRAL -Beachhead installation - landing on players map side -Sub Pen or PT Base
OTHER ROC torpedo boat or cruiser//Ning Hai always seems to be brought up as good ship to put in. And maybe we can honor Sir_Valentine in the history write portion on the back
To avoid 'stuffing of the ballot box' Please nominate 1 unit or unit type per nation only and a brief reasoning for it, for the benefit of others.
You'll have future opportunity to make additional suggestions and probably run off voting. I simply cannot keep up with massive shopping lists.
