Going for a V&W away from u boat operations could be an option, although obviously the most famous of these are from that category. I'll take a better look at some of these going forward but I don't see why those two abilities (drive off/Guard the convoy) couldn't be used on one of several different named units. A lot of these were used on east convoy duties where aircraft, E boats & mines were the main threats. Possibly a flavor SA could also be added for the sterling work they also did engaging enemy units(often over open sights) and then the evacuations they took part in from the hook of Holland to the bay of Biscay. Wakeful can definitely be improved, on as that was average at best compared to some others.
Anything that lost boilers will pick up slow 1. 25kt is the cut off and they were a fraction slower
Hmm the long range types are obviously going to be the Atlantic veterans. There are some that were used more in the fleet escort role in the MED etc. with mixed services like Wrestler, Wishart, Wivern but not sure on speeds without doubling down.
"That's right son, join the navy. Get behind a bloody big gun and knock the hell out of somebody"
"We went out, got our arses kicked, then came back again"
I would rather have a 2nd Mark Anthony than a 5th Littorio. The Littorios are just bad at range and I would rather have the permanent extra dice that giving them RFC...
But the italians had no plans to build any of that class. Its all conjecture based on plans sold to the russians that predate thr littorio's design being completed.
Important to repeat his thread is only for discussion sake.
Of the options, that to me seems best because theres some evidence that they RM sought 2 more. However if the consensus is to do collona. Then lets do so with the understanding of what it represents.
I haven't been able to keep up with this thread lately, but I thought I would throw in a list I have occasionally worked on as I discovered interesting units. Units I think might be particularly interesting and/or fill in holes are N-3PB Nomad, Avro Anson, HMS Lively (Good ASW or torpedoes, but not both because torpedo tubes were removed for extra DCs), Tu-2, Gneisenau rebuild, MV Burgenland (good "universal" freighter for Germany), Fiat RS.14, Yugure, and Santa Fe.
Deck H
Australia HMAS Barcoo - River class DD (HMS Swale reprint) HMAS Warramunga - Tribal class DD (Arunta/Haida/Cossack reprint) Vultee Veangence - Dive Bomber
Brazil Jurua – DD (H class )
Canada HMCS Swansea - River class DD (HMS Swale reprint) HMCS St. Clair - Town/Clemson class DD (Edsall reprint) HMCS Ottawa - G-class (Vasilissa Olga/ZG3 reprint) HMCS Athabaskan - Tribal class DD (Arunta/Haida/Cossack reprint)
France
D790 carrier fighter with Escort (D.520 reprint) Jeanne d'Arc - Jeanne d'Arc class CL Lansequenet - Le Hardi class DD (with better ASW) (Sea God reprint) Le Tonnant or Le Glorieux sub ( Casabianca reprint) Primauguet CL (La Motte Picquet reprint) Tourville - Duquesne class CA (Sea God reprint) Le Malin or Le Triomphant DD - (Le Terrible sister)
Netherlands Evertsen or Kortenear - DD ( Witte de With sister) Hr. Ms. Sumatra - CL (Java class) Hr. Ms. Van Kinsbergan - DD
Grom - Grom class DD (Blyskawica sister) ORP Krakowiak - Hunt class DD
United Kingdom
Avro Anson - patrol bomber ASW FAA Corsair - fighter HMS Aurora or HMS Galatea - Arethusa class light cruiser HMS Lively - L class DD (chance to do this class correctly. Very busy ship!) HMS Malaya – QE class BB* HMS Sunflower or HMS Godetia - Flower class corvette (Sackville reprint) HMS Howe - King George V class (KGV/Prince of Wales reprint) HMS Jervis - J class or HMS Kelly - K class DD (Javelin/Van Galen/Nizam reprint) HMS Naiad - Dido class CL (Euryalus sister) HMS Revenge - Revenge class (Royal Oak/Arkhangelisk reprint) HMS Southampton/Glasgow CL - Southhampton class (Sheffield reprint) HMS Terror - Erebus class monitor HMS Vindex or Nairana - Vindex class CVE
United States F6F-5 Hellcat - Fighter-bomber (F6F-3 reprint) A-26 Invader - Patrol Bomber P-47 Thunderbolt - Fighter (or to France) SS Stephen Hopkins - Liberty Ship (Jeremiah O'Brien reprint) USS Bailey, USS Hilary P. Jones, or USS Woolsey - Benson/Gleaves class - DD USS Boston CA - Baltimore class (Baltimore/Quincy reprint) USS Buckley - Buckley class DE (repel boarders) USS Jouett (DD-396) – Somers class DD USS Guam - Alaska class CA USS Idaho (BB-42) - New Mexico class BB USS Mason - Evarts class DE (African-American crew) USS McDermut (DD-677) - Fletcher class destroyer (Leyte Gulf torpedo Salvo) USS Minneapolis CA - New Orleans class (San Francisco reprint) USS Mount Vernon - Auxiliary Troop Transport USS Nashville or USS Savannah or USS Honolulu- Brooklyn class CL USS New Mexico (BB-40) - New Mexico class BB USS New York (BB-32) - New York class BB USS Oakland (CL-95) - Oakland/Modified Atlanta class Light Cruiser USS Oklahoma (BB-37) - Nevada class BB USS Patterson, Blue, or Ralph Talbot - DD - Bagley class - (Bagley reprint) USS Tautog - Tambor class submarine (DT1) USS Ticonderoga or USS Franklin CV - Essex class - (Intrepid/Essex reprint)
Soviet Union
Gnevnyi DD - (Gromkiy reprint) Murmansk - Omaha class CL (Richmond reprint) L-3 Frunzenets - Leninets class sub S-101 - Series IX bis class sub Tu-2 Patrol Bomber (torpedo/dive)
Finland 24. Vesihiisi - sub (similar to German Type VII - U-47/552 reprint)
Germany
Gneisenau 15in rebuild - BB (lengthened, better AA, no torps) actually got half-way completed Me 155 – fighter (carrier fighter evolved from Bf-109) MV Burgenland - Auxiliary (freighter blockade runner sunk by Omaha and Jouette) Class of 6 ships Z9 Wolfgang Zenker or Z12 Erich Giese - 1934A type DD Z52 - Z52 type DD
Italy
Bartolomeo Colleoni - CL - (Giovanni delle Bande Nere reprint) Fiat RS.14 - Patrol Bomber (float plane ASW) Guglielmo Marconi - Marconi class sub (Leonardo da Vinci reprint)
Japan
Amatsukazi - DD (Kagero class) Battle of Java Sea, Sank sub with Hatsukazi, torpedoed and sank USS Barton, survived being torpedoed by USS Redfin, Hit by B-25's but shot down 3 (claimed 5) Ashigara - CA (Myoko class) Katori - light (training) cruiser - flag? Kyushu Q1W1 Lorna - patrol bomber ASW Mikuma - CA (Mogami class) Takao - CA (Takao class) Yamagumo - DD (Asashio class) Sank USS Sculpin Yugure - DD (Hatsuharu class only missing class) Battle of Kolombagara - helped sink Gwin, damage Honolulu and St. Louis