DECK F HMS Indomitable *DONE*

Remember that her sisters are all Cap 2. So instead of being a crappy cap 3, this is an advanced Cap 2, I'd say.

Honesrly, I doubt the Ark Royal will ever truly be obsolete in the game. The UK has so few Cap 3 Careiers (4 if you include this one, and 2 are late war), that she would still be neccesary in a fight against USN or IJN air. Expert Torps is important enough in the UK air scheme that AR should always get a look.

I can see where using Poor Facilities meets a "lets use an existing SA if it fits" criteria. And it is essentially a positive SA on an otherwise CAP 2 carrier. But I think this is a "tweener" and for game balance purposes (UK carrier cap early war) I would prefer the CAP 3 if one of the aircraft is a fighter SA. It fits the history, and makes it a CAP 3 most of the time if you manage your squadrons effectively. It does make you do a little juggling, but that is the point.

My 2 cents.

Costing carriers is tough because the WotC carriers tended to be costed too high at CAP 1, costed fairly well at CAP 2, and under-costed at CAP 3 and higher. There are exceptions (Graf Zep), but for the most part I think it holds. So we always have a little trouble with costing relative to the WotC carriers. With CAP 1 carriers I am fairly comfortable "rounding down" the cost when in doubt. With CAP 3 carriers I would tend to "round up" when in doubt, but that tends to make it difficult to make a new CAP 3 that is competitive with an older CAP 3. I think the solution is to give a CAP 3 a good SA package and round up the cost. But that is just me. 


Of course, this is a CAP 2.5 with the PF SA. That's a little tricky. I think it rounds towards a CAP 2 more than CAP 3. The reason is you have one aircraft unit that essentially gets a rearming counter every other turn. Tying up an aircraft unit like that is costing you some "money" (fleet building points) on two units, not just one. So a "round down if in doubt" is probably appropriate here.

I certainly wouldn't fuss over Poor Facilities. It just works.

After reading the players opinions on this unit i tend to agree with Weeds;

  AS a carrier;; it is most valuable as a Cap 3 and the mandatory Fighter SA to lessens the reach makes it seem fair.

That being said its other SA's could be kept a minimum to compensate the Cap 3;

  The Fighter SA with Torpedo Defense, Flag and an Expert 1 SA should well compensate for the units design uniqueness.

I believe you can best cost a new CV by comparing it to whats been done before

 Looking at Expansions Formidable and Indefatigable thats a fair 23pt CV.