M-Class light cruiser - München *Done*

TOUGH; are we really taking the word seriously here or in the confines of the SA; Tough as in having the benefit of warding off DD's and Fighters not 8 14 0r 15" shells!!!

     Giving this unit those SA's has everything to do with representing speed and scouting;; SRINT your one time bonus without thrashing the 2 SPEED limit into chaos;;

TOUGH CRUISER; the benefit of out maneuvering DD's and Aux's;; Raider the benefit of out dueling DD's and Aux's;

    What else was it suppose to do;;; take on the Convoy screen while the big boys went to work;;;

How does that compare to HELPING Germany's mighty Atlantic Wall take on the D Day invasion fleet;; really

   This thread is becoming irresolute who ever is in charge please make a call; before we start fighting Space ships!!!

There are only assumptions that about why SAs are given to the wotc units. Yes they might be informed assumptions. But it cannot be said for certain the specific technical specification determined them or an abstraction of the service history.

Theres a case to be made thar gotland herself shadowing the bismark earned the Scout Cruiser SA. As her aircraft were not embarked by 1941 afaik.

The assumption is that its the number of aircraft is my point. It could as easily have been a case of historical service.

Tone scouted at midway.

Gotland spotted bismark. The transmission reporting that was intercepted by the brits. Not her planes.


I think scout cruiser alone a solitary SA is going to make the ship usable in a lot more fleet combinations than a bunch of abstract SAs to make is fractionally better replacement for a couple relatively unpopular ships.

SWO/Flak... easy guys. We're all friends here. I understand that we've been talking about this unit for awhile, and that Ticat can shut down this conversation since technically we have voted on the unit. But until he steps in, I'm going to keep trying to push for this unit to be something more interesting and synergistic. I'll be honest in that since it is a fantasy unit I'm focusing more on gameplay than keeping the function of the unit historically accurate (It doesn't have a history, just theory of naval doctrine at the time).

So with that in mind and taking some of the feedback into consideration, here's my counter proposal to the Sprint/Tough/Raider version:

"M"-class Light Cruiser - München?
Year: 1941
Type: Cruiser
Cost: ?
Speed: 2
MG: 7/7/6/5
AA: 7
TT: 2/1
A/VA/HP: 3/9/3

SAs:
Fast 5: At the beginning of your Sea Movement step, roll a die. On a 5 or higher, this unit gets +1 speed this turn

Evasive Action: Whenever an enemy unit rolls successes against this unit exactly equal to its armor value, roll a die. On a 4 or higher, that attack causes no damage

Repel Landing (NEW): Once per game, at the end of the Surface attack phase, choose one Auxiliary or a Ship with a Landing Ability that this unit attacked this turn. If movement is possible, the target must immediately move one sector away. That unit may not use the Landing ability this turn.


The Repel Landing can easily become Drive off if we want to just utilize an existing SA, though I think that the Repel Invasion is actually more useful in denying bonus points and protecting installations.

Looking forward to your comments and feedback guys.

Ok guys, great back and forth and a great bunch of very different ideas.

I'm going to say to give it a rest until I have a chance to thoroughly read through the past few pages and put together a going forward point

Man is that a fact!!!!