DECK F HMS Indomitable *DONE*

Jul 19, 2018 at 5:12pm QuoteEditlikePost Options
Post by waratsea4 on Jul 19, 2018 at 5:12pm
HMS Indomitable;

  Due to her larger Air Wing she definitely deserves "A Fighter Cover SA" I just think 5 is to low.

   Since she carried mostly Albacores or Avengers with Fighters I'd give her Exert Torpedos and Expert Fighter
Expert Torpedo goes nice with Formidable SA;;;



   I posted that on 7/19 it was quite obvious that was a safe bet;  did like some of the new ideas; but safe it is.

Still don't get the Expert Bomber RN had nothing really worth while till 43;

   If people like Expert Bomber so much why not something new for this type of UK carrier Expert Bomber 2,

really benefits RN what ever year or theater they play the unit.

  What ever still going to be a nice addition to the fleet.

Abstain

HMS Indomitable
Ship - Carrier
Year: 1941
Cost: 22
Speed: 2
Cap: 2
MG: 6-6-4
AA: 8
A/VA/HP: 5-11-4

TORPEDO DEFENSE 1: Each torpedo hit rolled against this unit deals 1 less point of hull damage.

EXPERT BOMBER: Once per turn, you may choose a friendly Dive Bomber. That Dive Bomber rolls one extra attack die when making Bomb attacks this turn.

FIGHTER COVER 6: Once per turn during the Antiair phase, you may make a 6-dice Antiair attack against enemy aircraft within range 3. This attack is in addition to your normal Antiair attack. The Escort ability works against this attack

Here's what folks had to say

The unit plays fine. The issue that I see with this unit is cost as I think it is over costed and here's my rationale.

Currently we have three sister ships already in the game Victorious (18), Formidable (20), and Illustrious (20).

All have the same state line (guns, AA, A/V/H, and Torpedo Defense)


#212 Illustrious 20pts Expert Dogfighter Expert Torpedos Sneak Attack
#413 Victorious 18pts Expert Dogfighter Expert Bomber
#1018 Formidable 20pts Expert Dogfighter Veteran Torpedo Bomber Damage Control
#xxxx Indomitable 22pts Expert Bomber Fighter Cover 6

I get that the Illustrious was out of the 2nd set and the designer was still finalizing unit point structures so it might have been high and when the Victorious came out lacking an SA it had a 2 point reduction to make up for the points and the Sneak Attack SA.

When the Formidable came out the Expert Torpedo was "upgraded" to Veteran and Damage control was added thus the bump back up to 22 points.

Now we have the Indomitable with only two SA's while losing the Expert Dogfighter but adding Fighter Cover 6. I think at most this trade off would be 1 point over the Victorious making it a 19 point carrier.

Thus I believe that the cost of the unit should be no more than 20 points (ideally 19). And honestly, it plays closer to a 20 point carrier than a 22.
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I like this unit. It is a compromise all around, but that does not hinder its performance. The FC6 is a great way to show a 1/2 to 2/3 squad of fighters, and in 2 games over the weekend, she held her own, in both mid war games combined with an Ark Royal. I agree the points need to be about 19-20. If that happens, she would be perfect!!

I'm good with this.

I think 19 is about right.

Originally an Illustrious-class carrier, HMS Indomitable had a second level added to her hanger to increase the size of her air group. She was part of the British attempt to block the Japanese Indian Ocean raid, and later helped take Madagascar. Indomitable was twice damaged in the Mediterranean, first by bombs and near misses while escorting a Malta bound convoy, later by two torpedo hits while preparing for the invasion of Sicily. She ended the war serving in the Far East where her armored flight deck allowed her to shrug off a kamikaze hit.