DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon *DONE*

waratsea4
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DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon *DONE* Sept 3, 2018 15:36:40 GMT

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Post by waratsea4 on Sept 3, 2018 15:36:40 GMT

Australia's strength does lay with its Cruisers; so helping Cruisers can't be bad for Australia;

But as the Forum has discussed how cost effective are Cruisers??

As i posted the first halve of its Service was Guarding Seaways as was so many other RN DD's

and in its later years assigned to the PBF mainly as a screen for its BB's CV's and CA's; She even escorted Victorious to the US [Robin].

If you look at the War Emergency Program DD's of the RN she has one of the best AA arrangements and a design to allow for more.

A great range at 20 knots. she could keep up with the Jones.

Why i think Establish Screen and Desperate AA or Veteran AA are good choices for Australia and this unit.

Last Edit: Sept 3, 2018 15:37:37 GMT by waratsea4

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DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon *DONE* Oct 8, 2018 2:57:57 GMT

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Post by ticat1 on Oct 8, 2018 2:57:57 GMT

What if we go with just this?

HMS Quickmatch
HMAS Quickmatch

Ship - Destroyer
Year: 1942
Cost: ?
Speed: 2

MG: 4-4-3
AA: 5
ASW: 5
TT: 2-2-1
A/VA/HP: 2-7-2

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Cruiser Screen: If this unit is in the same sector as a friendly Cruiser, this unit rolls one extra attack die when making Antiair attacks for this turn.

Last Edit: Oct 8, 2018 21:07:25 GMT by ticat1

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flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 9,839	DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon DONE Oct 8, 2018 9:31:07 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Oct 8, 2018 9:31:07 GMT Why was the other SA dropped?

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DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon *DONE* Oct 8, 2018 20:09:11 GMT via mobile

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Post by texasarcher on Oct 8, 2018 20:09:11 GMT

Oct 8, 2018 2:57:57 GMT ticat1 said:

What if we go with just this?

HMS Quickmatch
HMAS Quickmatch

Ship - Destroyer
Year: 1942
Cost: ?
Speed: 2

MG: 4-4-3
AA: 5
ASW: 5
TT: 2-2-1
A/VA/HP: 2-7-2

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Cruiser Screen: If this unit is in the same sector as a friendly Auxiliary unit, this unit rolls one extra attack die when making Antiair attacks for this turn.

So just a bog stndard DD except for Convoy games? It will never be used...

ticat1 Moderator "Ready, Aye, Ready" Posts: 1,363	DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon DONE Oct 8, 2018 21:08:04 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ticat1 on Oct 8, 2018 21:08:04 GMT Fixed. Supposed to be cruiser not auxiliary
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texasarcher Deck E playtester Posts: 436	DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon DONE Oct 9, 2018 16:51:52 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by texasarcher on Oct 9, 2018 16:51:52 GMT Wont be used... If I want Generic RN DD. I will go with Javelin everytime... at least she can do a few things. Same with Arunta when I need an Aussie DD...

texasarcher Deck E playtester Posts: 436	DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon DONE Oct 9, 2018 16:54:37 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by texasarcher on Oct 9, 2018 16:54:37 GMT If you want this class, then change it to another unit with a war record we can get SA from... If not, then change the class...

gaz01
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DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon *DONE* Oct 12, 2018 2:05:17 GMT

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Post by gaz01 on Oct 12, 2018 2:05:17 GMT

It has a defensive history but I still think we can get something good from it and still prefer the carrier screen over cruiser, as this is something they could do with and fits well with the service record.

- Carrier Screen: If this unit is in the same sector as a friendly Carrier, this unit rolls one extra attack die when making Anti-air attacks.

- Convoy Guard: Enemy Ships roll one less attack die when making Gunnery attacks against friendly Auxiliaries in the same sector as this unit.

I actually prefer guard the convoy to convoy guard but its an option if you don't want to keep using the former. But I do think a couple of defensive SAs is better, rather than mixing defensive/attacking ones and therefore keeping it solid for that role.

Last Edit: Oct 12, 2018 2:05:58 GMT by gaz01

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DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon *DONE* Oct 12, 2018 3:05:17 GMT via mobile

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Post by flakstruk on Oct 12, 2018 3:05:17 GMT

Oct 12, 2018 2:05:17 GMT gaz01 said:

It has a defensive history but I still think we can get something good from it and still prefer the carrier screen over cruiser, as this is something they could do with and fits well with the service record.

- Carrier Screen: If this unit is in the same sector as a friendly Carrier, this unit rolls one extra attack die when making Anti-air attacks.

- Convoy Guard: Enemy Ships roll one less attack die when making Gunnery attacks against friendly Auxiliaries in the same sector as this unit.

I actually prefer guard the convoy to convoy guard but its an option if you don't want to keep using the former. But I do think a couple of defensive SAs is better, rather than mixing defensive/attacking ones and therefore keeping it solid for that role.

RAN doctrine was around the cruisers until 44 at the earliest.

That said, a carrier guard is another case for the HM(A)S Ocean. Which would a good option. Its not much help for the US or UK which have better back rank AA options already.

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DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon *DONE* Nov 4, 2018 0:59:58 GMT TrickiVic likes this

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Post by ticat1 on Nov 4, 2018 0:59:58 GMT

HMS Quickmatch
'Q' and 'R' class Destroyer
Commissioned: September 1942
Decommissioned: May 1950
Displacement: 1,705 tons standard
Length (OA): 358 ft, 3 in
Beam: 35 ft, 8 in
Speed: 36.75 kts
Armament: 4 x 4.7 in QF (4 x 1), 4 x 2 pdr pom-pom (1 x 4), 6 x 20mm AA (6 x 1), 8 x 21 in TT (2 x 4), 2 x DCR (45-70 DCs)

Notes: Repeat of J class, but with only 4 x 4.7 in guns instead of 6, and 8 TT instead of 10.

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Suggested stats[/font]

HMAS Quickmatch

Ship - Destroyer
Year: 1942
Cost: ?
Speed: 2

MG: 4-4-3
AA: 5
ASW: 5
TT: 2-2-1
A/VA/HP: 2-7-2

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Cruiser Guard: Enemy Ships roll one less attack die when making Gunnery attacks against friendly Cruisers in the same sector as this unit.

Cruiser Screen: If this unit is in the same sector as a friendly Cruiser unit, this unit rolls one extra attack die when making Antiair attacks for this turn

To you from failing hands we throw the torch be yours to hold it high.
-In Flanders Fields. John McCrea

flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 9,839	DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon DONE Nov 4, 2018 2:19:51 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Nov 4, 2018 2:19:51 GMT 👍

raevski Administrator Cooking with gas Posts: 1,615	DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon DONE Dec 25, 2018 7:54:47 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by raevski on Dec 25, 2018 7:54:47 GMT Value at 8

waratsea4 Forumini Lieutenant Posts: 839	DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon DONE Dec 25, 2018 19:09:34 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by waratsea4 on Dec 25, 2018 19:09:34 GMT Ad Establish Screen to that for 8 pts.;; you've got one hell of an Aussie DD

firesdstny Deck E developer Posts: 1,419	DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon DONE Dec 28, 2018 6:13:51 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by firesdstny on Dec 28, 2018 6:13:51 GMT 8 actually seems overcost, but I like the final idea.

waratsea4
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DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon *DONE* Dec 28, 2018 7:27:16 GMT

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Post by waratsea4 on Dec 28, 2018 7:27:16 GMT

7pts would be to low for this unit;

There is only one unit in the game with a 2-2-1 Torpedo line and a 2-7-2 defensive line at 7 pts. Gwin

Her 5AA - 5ASW - range 1 4die mg with 3 SA's puts her nicely in the mix with most RN CW DD's at 8pts.

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DECK F HMAS Quickmatch/Quiberon DONE

Post by waratsea4 on Sept 3, 2018 15:36:40 GMT

Post by ticat1 on Oct 8, 2018 2:57:57 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Oct 8, 2018 9:31:07 GMT

Post by texasarcher on Oct 8, 2018 20:09:11 GMT

Post by ticat1 on Oct 8, 2018 21:08:04 GMT

Post by texasarcher on Oct 9, 2018 16:51:52 GMT

Post by texasarcher on Oct 9, 2018 16:54:37 GMT

Post by gaz01 on Oct 12, 2018 2:05:17 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Oct 12, 2018 3:05:17 GMT

Post by ticat1 on Nov 4, 2018 0:59:58 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Nov 4, 2018 2:19:51 GMT

Post by raevski on Dec 25, 2018 7:54:47 GMT

Post by waratsea4 on Dec 25, 2018 19:09:34 GMT

Post by firesdstny on Dec 28, 2018 6:13:51 GMT

Post by waratsea4 on Dec 28, 2018 7:27:16 GMT

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