Deck E debrief

Hello

I wouldn’t mind a mix in which half of a set is publically nominated, pitched or advocated for and voted on. Then it leaves half for the team and the element of surprise. I “guess” that is the rough formula for optimizing engagement on the forum and generating site traffic. But I could also be wrong, just my opinion.

50:50 i guess. It can be problematic though if half the deck is picked to balance the remaining half.

Of the total number in E i forget how many were near misses in the voting for the 40%

This is a Forum players should look up what the meaning is;
       The Forum should pick the units; the team to save endless rhetoric should select from those units; making for a balanced deck.
Meaning a deck in the likeness of preceding decks
      The Forum should have some input into each unit with the final say being the Teams.
Anything else you're just kidding yourself, its someones pet project
      Lots of players make cards; what if anything separates them; i guess to some nothing.
To me it was a project started in the likeness of the original game with some pretty strict guide rules; each passing deck as
      slowly eroded that.
A Forum is not the place to serve the views of a few; but a place for all to share their views, or just call it
       The Good Old Boys Club

Look up the WotC Star Wars miniatures board. We actually modeled after their very successful card projects. Although we actually added more input and openness than they did. And they are still going. They are one of the few successful ongoing fan projects I have ever heard about. They gave us tips on how to do this, and the contact for printing the excellent cards. They allowed their open board to pick and create one card out of the whole deck once, and it was evidently a huge mess.

Why do you consider Deck D a total failure?

I would probably say 50/50 in theory but with veto power to block anything that could unbalance the game like that giant German fantasy BB people wanted for deck D .

But if you have some forum input like which British destroyer do you want to see ex. Forum votes Hotspur or which British BB forum votes revenge and then work on it behind closed doors with may be some public  updates etc

Why do you consider Deck D a total failure?

I would probably say 50/50 in theory but with veto power to block anything that could unbalance the game like that giant German fantasy BB people wanted for deck D .

But if you have some forum input like which British destroyer do you want to see ex. Forum votes Hotspur or which British BB forum votes revenge and then work on it behind closed doors with may be some public  updates etc[/quote]

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My reply.

Several totally broken units that have power profiles outside the range of the game, and a whole bunch of stuff that is too weak or "scenario" to be of any use in a tournament. The deck is horribly out of balance. For me it is rarely an issue of a specific unit wanted or unwanted. It is about maintaining good game balance and not breaking the game. That means not creating units that have to be banned in an open tournament format, or losing site of the simplicity and speed of play that are the hallmark of this as a naval game. Our local club had to ban six units. We had never banned a unit before. That says "failure" to me. In an open tournament where Deck D is allowed I prefer not to play at all. It was a deck of extremes. Cards are either broken or useless. There was no sense of "center" for the game across the entire process.

Yet I put up the $3500.00 front money to make sure the deck was done even though I don't like it. It's what you guys wanted and we created so that is what we got. The process was horrible. It made a lot of bad cards, a very bad deck, and we lost some friends.

Deck E is much better, but it was a horribly long and difficult process. Bone wearying in fact and almost didn't get finished.