Too good to be true?

nagato01
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Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 3:21:22 GMT

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Post by nagato01 on Nov 27, 2017 3:21:22 GMT

So I just the other night was scrolling through W@S eBay lots, because what else would I be doing on a Friday night?

Anyways, I happened upon a VERY recently posted lot for $20 out of China. I started to investigate and discovered through picture and description that it contained:

Yamato
Musashi
Missouri
Shokaku
Zuikaku

and MANY other ships. Now naturally given that there was all this bounty for a mere $20 USD (and free shipping to boot), I quickly snagged it.

I do hope I am not getting scammed. Upon analyzing the photo I can see many of the ships listed in the description in the picture (albeit, the photo is poor quality). The seller also offers returns, which leads me to believe that I am not being scammed and I can get my money back.

What do you guys think? All evidence so far suggests it is legit, but I just can't wrap my head around the fact that this is all only $20.....

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Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 3:24:08 GMT

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Post by nagato01 on Nov 27, 2017 3:24:08 GMT

Additionally, I observed only Set I and II ships in the lot, which could explain the low pricing. This chap may have gotten into the game a LONG time ago, never played, and only now is getting around to getting rid of his stuff, not knowing its current value.

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mnnorthstars Deck E developer Posts: 9,162	Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 3:28:40 GMT nagato01 likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mnnorthstars on Nov 27, 2017 3:28:40 GMT Fingers crossed!
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nagato01 Forumini Lieutenant Posts: 969	Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 3:31:03 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by nagato01 on Nov 27, 2017 3:31:03 GMT Really hope so! Actually kept me awake last night. I just couldn't believe it!
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Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 3:37:13 GMT

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Post by weedsrock2 on Nov 27, 2017 3:37:13 GMT

Good luck! Did it mention the cards, or just the miniatures? There have been some "pirate" WaS miniature lots out of China for sale that I assume were made through the "back door" with the molds. However, they always seemed to be common ships like DDs.

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weedsrock2 Administrator Posts: 4,524	Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 3:38:14 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by weedsrock2 on Nov 27, 2017 3:38:14 GMT Oh, and keep your eye on your credit card activity and bill.
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Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 3:39:18 GMT

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Post by nagato01 on Nov 27, 2017 3:39:18 GMT

Yes the lot had all the cards. And while it had commons, it also had these high power rares, including some other rares such as

Kongo (x2)
Haruna
Vittorio Veneto
Bismarck
Richelieu
Jean Bart

(Again, all being from Set I and II are the reason why I formulated this theory on as to when this guy got into the game)

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nagato01 Forumini Lieutenant Posts: 969	Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 3:39:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by nagato01 on Nov 27, 2017 3:39:39 GMT Nov 27, 2017 3:38:14 GMT weedsrock2 said: Oh, and keep your eye on your credit card activity and bill. I will be watching paypal (what we used) closely.
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weedsrock2 Administrator Posts: 4,524	Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 3:40:20 GMT nagato01 likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by weedsrock2 on Nov 27, 2017 3:40:20 GMT Here's hoping you are a very lucky guy! It does look good. Especially since the cards are included.
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nagato01 Forumini Lieutenant Posts: 969	Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 3:43:54 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by nagato01 on Nov 27, 2017 3:43:54 GMT He offers refunds too. That leads me to believe that this can't be a simple "haha I got $20 out of you and you can't return whatever I sent sucker" situation. If this lot had been $100+, I would have been much more skeptical.
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Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 4:56:29 GMT

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Post by baltimore8 on Nov 27, 2017 4:56:29 GMT

Not to Jinx you but I'm not too optimistic. I got 2 different BIN lots (1WAS,1AAM) 2 weeks ago that were too cheap to pass up with EBay's Buyer Protection plan! 2 days later I got a note from EBAY saying they removed the listings and both the sellers were no longer registered with EBAY, not obligated to pay if hadn't already but if already paid there was no reason to think the transaction wouldn't be completed normally. Are they F***** kidding me at that point? A quick call ( on hold for only 25 minutes) to my credit card company to try to cancel the charges. They credited both but are still awaiting a reply from one of the sellers (I can't really believe they got one from the other) so I'm not quite sure if the credits are final or not. I got no replies from either seller in regards to tracking numbers.

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Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 5:42:16 GMT

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Post by Stalker6 on Nov 27, 2017 5:42:16 GMT

Sorry, I think this is a scam. I bought one of the early listings and keep receiving the same generic reply to my inquiries (this was about a month ago). Since then, the pattern keeps getting repeated with a variety of AAM, WAS, and Flames of War lots (sometimes they even use the same picture/description) being listed every couple of days. In each case it is a new eBay account with an insanely low BIN price and free shipping. I thought it was too good to be true when I bought the first lot, but figured I would take a chance with the eBay protection policy. I finally got fed up when I saw them list a product that I seen a couple months earlier on eBay and had looked into buying it (Flames of War). It looks like they are copy/pasting old listings.

I have been reporting every new listing I see at this point to eBay.

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Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 5:46:19 GMT

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Post by Stalker6 on Nov 27, 2017 5:46:19 GMT

This is the response I have received on five different occasions when I asked if the package had been sent or if they had a tracking number-

Hi, friends,
I have for your shipping products,
I believe the product will bring pleasure.
And I promise you will receive it in 25-35 days,
You know the product is very cheap to sell you.
So we can not provide tracking numbers.
But do not worry about any problems.
We can contact the post office at any time to contact the current arrival position and tell you.
Make sure you will be happy to use.
Thank you

Here is the listing-
www.ebay.com/itm/Axis-and-allies-war-at-sea-Huge-lot-of-ships-Plus-maps-and-book-eBa/222707309563?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

Last Edit: Nov 27, 2017 5:47:42 GMT by Stalker6

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Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 7:03:40 GMT

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Post by Stalker6 on Nov 27, 2017 7:03:40 GMT

Here is another example-

Original Listing-
www.ebay.com/itm/Axis-Allies-War-at-Sea-American-Fleet-Lot/253208752375?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Fraudulent Listing-
www.ebay.com/itm/Axis-amp-Allies-War-at-Sea-American-Fleet-Lot-eBay/282722382733?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

I didn't buy either of these listings, just happened to have them in my "watched" list.

nagato01 Forumini Lieutenant Posts: 969	Too good to be true? Nov 27, 2017 11:10:52 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by nagato01 on Nov 27, 2017 11:10:52 GMT Well that is a bummer. Sounds like you guys are right. Still though, I will wait it out, you never know.
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Too good to be true?

Post by nagato01 on Nov 27, 2017 3:21:22 GMT

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Post by weedsrock2 on Nov 27, 2017 3:37:13 GMT

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Post by weedsrock2 on Nov 27, 2017 3:40:20 GMT

Post by nagato01 on Nov 27, 2017 3:43:54 GMT

Post by baltimore8 on Nov 27, 2017 4:56:29 GMT

Post by Stalker6 on Nov 27, 2017 5:42:16 GMT

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