Post by tragicmishap on Aug 29, 2017 19:35:57 GMT
Hey guys I've copied the first post from this thread on the old forum. I have played two more games and posted the results but not the writeups yet. Feel free to skip the wall of text. I'll also be posting my build strategy post here shortly just for reference. Here's the old post:
With the NCAA basketball tournament ending last night, I thought it would be a good time to start a new tournament. Many years ago on the old WotC forums I did a sudden death tournament like this with sixteen teams. I played each team myself and posted summaries and results on the thread. I saved all my teams and the summaries of the games in a file, which I just dug up and read through. It’s entertaining to see how much the game has changed since then. I learned a lot from the first tournament, and it helped me prepare for GenCon 2006 where I went undefeated the entire weekend and won six tournaments, four rated 100 point constructed, the Battle of the Bulge scenario and also a 100 point constructed tourney at a local gaming store the day before the Con. I even played against a guy who read my forum thread and used one of the teams from the tournament I posted.
Now that I’ve gotten back into the game I wanted to do something similar with all the new rules, pieces and even new maps. There were so many different ideas I wanted to test out that I had to expand the tournament to 32 teams. The format is two brackets with sixteen teams each. I have tried to balance the brackets as much as possible, but I put most of the teams I think are better in the 1st Bracket. I am using all the new 3” maps, revised cards and updated rules, including nation-specific bonuses, and I will use the aircraft expanded game rule but none of the other expanded rules.
Each bracket has the same amount of the following types of teams: three 5/5 defense infantry swarms, four 4/4 defense infantry swarms, five tank swarms, four combined arms teams, two nation-specific, one aircraft, one Paratrooper swarm, one light tank swarm, one Centurion, two Croc, one M12 GMC, one IS-2 Vet, one Rhino, one Finnish Ski Troop swarm, one Arisaka/Covering Fire swarm, one Inspiring Hero infantry swarm, one Eagle-Eyed NCO, four Imperial Sergeants.
Some other notable team metrics that are not balanced between the two brackets (1st Bracket is the first number): 7/6 Axis teams, 1/2 Sherman swarms, 1/0 Vet Tiger, 2/0 Vet Carro Armato, 2/0 Sherman commander, 5/3 SS-Hamster, 3/2 Greek Officer, 3/1 Flamer swarms, 3/1 SS swarm, 0/1 Ranger swarm, 1/0 Greek infantry swarm, 0/1 Heavy Mortar, 0/1 Obstacle, 1/2 Indirect Fire.
I drew seeds for each bracket randomly and made the first round pairings follow the pattern of 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15, etc. So within each bracket the matchups are completely random and so are the seeds. Seeds are not meant to indicate relative strength or show which teams are favored or anything like that. My goal is to play at least four games a week and post the results here for each game along with a summary of the action, but since there are 31 games to play I hope to do more than that.
Without any further ado, here are the 32 teams along with all their first round matchups. I will get started on Game 1 right away and post it later today.
First Bracket
Game 1
Winner
Seed 16: Seed 1:
8X Flamer 40 12X Flamer 60
Greek Officer 9 6X Greek Soldier 18
Eagle-Eyed NCO 7 Greek Officer 9
Intrepid Hero 8 Inspiring Hero 9
9X Garand 36 Gurkha 4
Game 2
Winner
Seed 2: Seed 15:
Brummbar 23 IS-2 Vet 67
Wehrmacht Sniper 11 Sherman Commander 33
Imp. Sgt. 9
SS-Haup 7
Grizzled Vet 8
3X SS-ST 21
3X SS-PG 21
Game 3
Winner
Seed 3: Seed 14:
12X Arisaka 36 6X SS-ST 42
5X Anti-Tank Grenadier 20 3X SS-PG 21
2X Werwolf Partisan 8 3X Flammenwerfer 15
Grizzled Vet 8 Tenacious Officer 6
3X Type 99 LMG 12 SS-Haup 7
Imp. Sgt. 9 Imp. Sgt. 9
SS-Haup. 7
Game 4
Winner
Seed 13: Seed 4:
8x Carro Armato 9X Screaming Eagle 81
Vet Carro Armato Resourceful Hero 8
Screaming Eagle Cpt. 11
Game 5
Winner
Seed 5: Seed 12:
Stuka 21 M12 GMC 28
SS-Haup 7 Jeep 3
16X Finnish Ski Troop 64 Rangers 7
Grizzled Vet 8 Resourceful Hero 8
2X Flamer 10
Centurion 44
Game 6
Winner
Seed 11: Seed 6:
20X Flamer 100 Croc 35
Greek Officer 9
Commissar 5
17X Greek Soldier 51
Game 7
Winner
Seed 7: Seed 10:
Rhino 26 3X Croc
Sherman Commander 33
Sherman 21
Early Sherman 20
Game 8
Winner
Seed 8: Seed 9:
5X SS-ST 35 Vet Carro Armato 14
2X SS-PG 14 Vet Tiger 68
Grizzled Vet 8 3X Panzer IB 18
3 X SNLF Fanatic 21
SS-Haup 7
Imp. Sgt. 9
Tenacious Officer 6
Second Bracket
Game 9
Winner
Seed 1: Seed: 16
Vet Su-76 20 12X Flamer 60
3X T-28 48 10X Thompson 40
2X T-35 36
2X Barbed Wire 1
Game 10
Winner
Seed 2: Seed 15:
IS-2 Vet 67 3X SE Para 27
2X Russian heavy mortar 22 7X Rangers 49
Ranger 7 Greek Officer 9
Jeep 3 EE NCO 7
2X BW Intrepid Hero 8
Game 11
Winner
Seed 3: Seed 14:
M12 GMC 28 3X SS-ST 21
Greek Officer 9 Pioneers 7
Jeep 3 Grizzled Vet 8
4X Rangers 28 12 X Arisaka 36
3X Flamer 15 3X Type 99 LMG 12
Resourceful Hero 8 SS-Haup 7
SE Para 9 Imp. Sgt. 9
Game 12
Winner
Seed 13: Seed 4:
Me262 19 SS-Panzer IV 27
Vet. Pz III 19 Elite StuG 27
Jagdtiger 54 2X Brummbar 46
4X Minefield 8
Game 13
Winner
Seed 5: Seed 12:
8X Vet Fallsch. 80 Centurion 44
Grizzled Vet 8 Croc 35
Imp Sgt 9 Sherman 21
Arisaka 3
Game 14
Winner
Seed 6: Seed 11:
16X New Zealand Infantry 80 5X Early Sherman
4X BEF Infantry 16
Inspiring Hero 9
Game 15
Winner
Seed 10: Seed 7:
2X Rhino 6X SS-ST 42
2X Sherman 105mm 3X SS-PG 21
2X SNLF Fanatic 14
HBH 7
Imp. Sgt. 9
SS-Haup. 7
Game 16
Winner
Seed 8: Seed 9:
2X Veteran Fallschirmjager 20 8X French Alpine Troop 48
Grizzled Vet 8 SE Para 9
Imp Sgt 9 Resourceful Hero 8
SS-Haup 7 Croc 35
14X Finnish Ski Troop 56
SECOND ROUND MATCHUPS
First Bracket
Game 17
Winner
Seed 16: Seed 2:
8X Flamer 40 Brummbar 23
Greek Officer 9 Wehrmacht Sniper 11
Eagle-Eyed NCO 7 Imp. Sgt. 9
Intrepid Hero 8 SS-Haup 7
9X Garand 36 Grizzled Vet 8
3X SS-ST 21
3X SS-PG 21
Game 18
Winner
Seed 3: Seed: 13
12X Arisaka 36 8x Carro Armato
5X Anti-Tank Grenadier 20 Vet Carro Armato
2X Werwolf Partisan 8
Grizzled Vet 8
3X Type 99 LMG 12
Imp. Sgt. 9
SS-Haup. 7
Game 19
Winner
Seed: 11 Seed: 5
20X Flamer 100 Stuka 21
SS-Haup 7
16X Finnish Ski Troop 64
Grizzled Vet 8
Game 20
Winner
Seed: 7 Seed: 8
Rhino 26 5X SS-ST 35
Sherman Commander 33 2X SS-PG 14
Sherman 21 Grizzled Vet 8
Early Sherman 20 3 X SNLF Fanatic 21
SS-Haup 7
Imp. Sgt. 9
Tenacious Officer 6
Second Bracket
Game 21
Winner
Seed: 2 Seed: 1
IS-2 Vet 67 Vet Su-76 20
2X Russian heavy mortar 22 3X T-28 48
Ranger 7 2X T-35 36
Jeep 3 2X Barbed Wire 1
2X BW
Game 22
Winner
Seed: 3 Seed: 13
M12 GMC 28 Me262 19
Greek Officer 9 Vet. Pz III 19
Jeep 3 Jagdtiger 54
4X Rangers 28 4X Minefield 8
3X Flamer 15
Resourceful Hero 8
SE Para 9
Game 23
Winner
Seed: 6 Seed: 5
16X New zealand Infantry 80 8X Vet Fallsch. 80
4X BEF Infantry 16 Grizzled Vet 8
Inspiring Hero 9 Imp Sgt 9
Arisaka 3
Game 24
Winner
Seed: 10 Seed: 8
2X Rhino 2X Veteran Fallschirmjager 20
2X Sherman 105mm Grizzled Vet 8
Imp Sgt 9
SS-Haup 7
14X Finnish Ski Troop 56
THIRD ROUND MATCHUPS
First Bracket
Game 25
Winner
Seed 16: Seed 3:
8X Flamer 40 12X Arisaka 36
Greek Officer 9 5X Anti-Tank Grenadier 20
Eagle-Eyed NCO 7 2X Werwolf Partisan 8
Intrepid Hero 8 Grizzled Vet 8
9X Garand 36 3X Type 99 LMG 12
Imp. Sgt. 9
SS-Haup. 7
Game 26
Winner
Seed 7: Seed 11:
Rhino 26 20X Flamer. 100
Sherman Commander 33
Sherman 21
Early Sherman 20
Second Bracket
Game 27
Seed: 2
IS-2 Vet 67
2X Russian heavy mortar 22
Ranger 7
Jeep 3
2X BW
Winner
Seed: 3
M12 GMC 28
Greek Officer 9
Jeep 3
4X Rangers 28
3X Flamer 15
Resourceful Hero 8
SE Para 9
Game 28
Seed: 6
16X New zealand Infantry 80
4X BEF Infantry 16
Inspiring Hero 9
Seed: 10
2X Rhino
2X Sherman 105mm
ADDITION: I decided to fill out a bracket for this tournament. I filled it out after four or five games but I used the picks I posted for those games and evaluated the bracket as if my picks had won. I chose a champion I probably wouldn't have picked if the matchups were different: the New Zealand Infantry/Inspiring Hero swarm. My picks showed it would never face its biggest weakness: a heavy tank team. It seemed to me one of the few teams that could take down the two flamer heavy teams, which I picked to go very far. Where my picks were wrong, I put the correct winning team in parentheses.
Bracketology:
First Bracket:
Game 1: Seed 16
Game 2: Seed 15 (Seed 2)
Game 3: Seed 14 (Seed 3)
Game 4: Seed 13
Game 5: Seed 5
Game 6: Seed 11
Game 7: Seed 10 (Seed 7)
Game 8: Seed 8
Game 17: Seed 15 (Seed 16)
Game 18: Seed 13 (Seed 3)
Game 19: Seed 11
Game 20: Seed 8 (Seed 7)
Game 25: Seed 13 (Seed 16)
Game 26: Seed 11. (Seed 7)
First Bracket Champion: Seed 11 (20X Flamer)
Second Bracket
Game 9: Seed 16 (Seed 1)
Game 10: Seed 2
Game 11: Seed 3
Game 12: Seed 13
Game 13: Seed 5
Game 14: Seed 6
Game 15: Seed 7 (Seed 10)
Game 16: Seed 8
Game 21: Seed 16 (Seed 2)
Game 22: Seed 13 (Seed 3)
Game 23: Seed 6
Game 24: Seed 8 (Seed 10)
Game 27: Seed 16
Game 28: Seed 6
Second Bracket Champion: Seed 6 (16X New Zealand Infantry, 4X BEF Infantry, Inspiring Hero)
Overall Champion: Seed 6 from the Second Bracket[/b]
With the NCAA basketball tournament ending last night, I thought it would be a good time to start a new tournament. Many years ago on the old WotC forums I did a sudden death tournament like this with sixteen teams. I played each team myself and posted summaries and results on the thread. I saved all my teams and the summaries of the games in a file, which I just dug up and read through. It’s entertaining to see how much the game has changed since then. I learned a lot from the first tournament, and it helped me prepare for GenCon 2006 where I went undefeated the entire weekend and won six tournaments, four rated 100 point constructed, the Battle of the Bulge scenario and also a 100 point constructed tourney at a local gaming store the day before the Con. I even played against a guy who read my forum thread and used one of the teams from the tournament I posted.
Now that I’ve gotten back into the game I wanted to do something similar with all the new rules, pieces and even new maps. There were so many different ideas I wanted to test out that I had to expand the tournament to 32 teams. The format is two brackets with sixteen teams each. I have tried to balance the brackets as much as possible, but I put most of the teams I think are better in the 1st Bracket. I am using all the new 3” maps, revised cards and updated rules, including nation-specific bonuses, and I will use the aircraft expanded game rule but none of the other expanded rules.
Each bracket has the same amount of the following types of teams: three 5/5 defense infantry swarms, four 4/4 defense infantry swarms, five tank swarms, four combined arms teams, two nation-specific, one aircraft, one Paratrooper swarm, one light tank swarm, one Centurion, two Croc, one M12 GMC, one IS-2 Vet, one Rhino, one Finnish Ski Troop swarm, one Arisaka/Covering Fire swarm, one Inspiring Hero infantry swarm, one Eagle-Eyed NCO, four Imperial Sergeants.
Some other notable team metrics that are not balanced between the two brackets (1st Bracket is the first number): 7/6 Axis teams, 1/2 Sherman swarms, 1/0 Vet Tiger, 2/0 Vet Carro Armato, 2/0 Sherman commander, 5/3 SS-Hamster, 3/2 Greek Officer, 3/1 Flamer swarms, 3/1 SS swarm, 0/1 Ranger swarm, 1/0 Greek infantry swarm, 0/1 Heavy Mortar, 0/1 Obstacle, 1/2 Indirect Fire.
I drew seeds for each bracket randomly and made the first round pairings follow the pattern of 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15, etc. So within each bracket the matchups are completely random and so are the seeds. Seeds are not meant to indicate relative strength or show which teams are favored or anything like that. My goal is to play at least four games a week and post the results here for each game along with a summary of the action, but since there are 31 games to play I hope to do more than that.
Without any further ado, here are the 32 teams along with all their first round matchups. I will get started on Game 1 right away and post it later today.
First Bracket
Game 1
Winner
Seed 16: Seed 1:
8X Flamer 40 12X Flamer 60
Greek Officer 9 6X Greek Soldier 18
Eagle-Eyed NCO 7 Greek Officer 9
Intrepid Hero 8 Inspiring Hero 9
9X Garand 36 Gurkha 4
Game 2
Winner
Seed 2: Seed 15:
Brummbar 23 IS-2 Vet 67
Wehrmacht Sniper 11 Sherman Commander 33
Imp. Sgt. 9
SS-Haup 7
Grizzled Vet 8
3X SS-ST 21
3X SS-PG 21
Game 3
Winner
Seed 3: Seed 14:
12X Arisaka 36 6X SS-ST 42
5X Anti-Tank Grenadier 20 3X SS-PG 21
2X Werwolf Partisan 8 3X Flammenwerfer 15
Grizzled Vet 8 Tenacious Officer 6
3X Type 99 LMG 12 SS-Haup 7
Imp. Sgt. 9 Imp. Sgt. 9
SS-Haup. 7
Game 4
Winner
Seed 13: Seed 4:
8x Carro Armato 9X Screaming Eagle 81
Vet Carro Armato Resourceful Hero 8
Screaming Eagle Cpt. 11
Game 5
Winner
Seed 5: Seed 12:
Stuka 21 M12 GMC 28
SS-Haup 7 Jeep 3
16X Finnish Ski Troop 64 Rangers 7
Grizzled Vet 8 Resourceful Hero 8
2X Flamer 10
Centurion 44
Game 6
Winner
Seed 11: Seed 6:
20X Flamer 100 Croc 35
Greek Officer 9
Commissar 5
17X Greek Soldier 51
Game 7
Winner
Seed 7: Seed 10:
Rhino 26 3X Croc
Sherman Commander 33
Sherman 21
Early Sherman 20
Game 8
Winner
Seed 8: Seed 9:
5X SS-ST 35 Vet Carro Armato 14
2X SS-PG 14 Vet Tiger 68
Grizzled Vet 8 3X Panzer IB 18
3 X SNLF Fanatic 21
SS-Haup 7
Imp. Sgt. 9
Tenacious Officer 6
Second Bracket
Game 9
Winner
Seed 1: Seed: 16
Vet Su-76 20 12X Flamer 60
3X T-28 48 10X Thompson 40
2X T-35 36
2X Barbed Wire 1
Game 10
Winner
Seed 2: Seed 15:
IS-2 Vet 67 3X SE Para 27
2X Russian heavy mortar 22 7X Rangers 49
Ranger 7 Greek Officer 9
Jeep 3 EE NCO 7
2X BW Intrepid Hero 8
Game 11
Winner
Seed 3: Seed 14:
M12 GMC 28 3X SS-ST 21
Greek Officer 9 Pioneers 7
Jeep 3 Grizzled Vet 8
4X Rangers 28 12 X Arisaka 36
3X Flamer 15 3X Type 99 LMG 12
Resourceful Hero 8 SS-Haup 7
SE Para 9 Imp. Sgt. 9
Game 12
Winner
Seed 13: Seed 4:
Me262 19 SS-Panzer IV 27
Vet. Pz III 19 Elite StuG 27
Jagdtiger 54 2X Brummbar 46
4X Minefield 8
Game 13
Winner
Seed 5: Seed 12:
8X Vet Fallsch. 80 Centurion 44
Grizzled Vet 8 Croc 35
Imp Sgt 9 Sherman 21
Arisaka 3
Game 14
Winner
Seed 6: Seed 11:
16X New Zealand Infantry 80 5X Early Sherman
4X BEF Infantry 16
Inspiring Hero 9
Game 15
Winner
Seed 10: Seed 7:
2X Rhino 6X SS-ST 42
2X Sherman 105mm 3X SS-PG 21
2X SNLF Fanatic 14
HBH 7
Imp. Sgt. 9
SS-Haup. 7
Game 16
Winner
Seed 8: Seed 9:
2X Veteran Fallschirmjager 20 8X French Alpine Troop 48
Grizzled Vet 8 SE Para 9
Imp Sgt 9 Resourceful Hero 8
SS-Haup 7 Croc 35
14X Finnish Ski Troop 56
SECOND ROUND MATCHUPS
First Bracket
Game 17
Winner
Seed 16: Seed 2:
8X Flamer 40 Brummbar 23
Greek Officer 9 Wehrmacht Sniper 11
Eagle-Eyed NCO 7 Imp. Sgt. 9
Intrepid Hero 8 SS-Haup 7
9X Garand 36 Grizzled Vet 8
3X SS-ST 21
3X SS-PG 21
Game 18
Winner
Seed 3: Seed: 13
12X Arisaka 36 8x Carro Armato
5X Anti-Tank Grenadier 20 Vet Carro Armato
2X Werwolf Partisan 8
Grizzled Vet 8
3X Type 99 LMG 12
Imp. Sgt. 9
SS-Haup. 7
Game 19
Winner
Seed: 11 Seed: 5
20X Flamer 100 Stuka 21
SS-Haup 7
16X Finnish Ski Troop 64
Grizzled Vet 8
Game 20
Winner
Seed: 7 Seed: 8
Rhino 26 5X SS-ST 35
Sherman Commander 33 2X SS-PG 14
Sherman 21 Grizzled Vet 8
Early Sherman 20 3 X SNLF Fanatic 21
SS-Haup 7
Imp. Sgt. 9
Tenacious Officer 6
Second Bracket
Game 21
Winner
Seed: 2 Seed: 1
IS-2 Vet 67 Vet Su-76 20
2X Russian heavy mortar 22 3X T-28 48
Ranger 7 2X T-35 36
Jeep 3 2X Barbed Wire 1
2X BW
Game 22
Winner
Seed: 3 Seed: 13
M12 GMC 28 Me262 19
Greek Officer 9 Vet. Pz III 19
Jeep 3 Jagdtiger 54
4X Rangers 28 4X Minefield 8
3X Flamer 15
Resourceful Hero 8
SE Para 9
Game 23
Winner
Seed: 6 Seed: 5
16X New zealand Infantry 80 8X Vet Fallsch. 80
4X BEF Infantry 16 Grizzled Vet 8
Inspiring Hero 9 Imp Sgt 9
Arisaka 3
Game 24
Winner
Seed: 10 Seed: 8
2X Rhino 2X Veteran Fallschirmjager 20
2X Sherman 105mm Grizzled Vet 8
Imp Sgt 9
SS-Haup 7
14X Finnish Ski Troop 56
THIRD ROUND MATCHUPS
First Bracket
Game 25
Winner
Seed 16: Seed 3:
8X Flamer 40 12X Arisaka 36
Greek Officer 9 5X Anti-Tank Grenadier 20
Eagle-Eyed NCO 7 2X Werwolf Partisan 8
Intrepid Hero 8 Grizzled Vet 8
9X Garand 36 3X Type 99 LMG 12
Imp. Sgt. 9
SS-Haup. 7
Game 26
Winner
Seed 7: Seed 11:
Rhino 26 20X Flamer. 100
Sherman Commander 33
Sherman 21
Early Sherman 20
Second Bracket
Game 27
Seed: 2
IS-2 Vet 67
2X Russian heavy mortar 22
Ranger 7
Jeep 3
2X BW
Winner
Seed: 3
M12 GMC 28
Greek Officer 9
Jeep 3
4X Rangers 28
3X Flamer 15
Resourceful Hero 8
SE Para 9
Game 28
Seed: 6
16X New zealand Infantry 80
4X BEF Infantry 16
Inspiring Hero 9
Seed: 10
2X Rhino
2X Sherman 105mm
ADDITION: I decided to fill out a bracket for this tournament. I filled it out after four or five games but I used the picks I posted for those games and evaluated the bracket as if my picks had won. I chose a champion I probably wouldn't have picked if the matchups were different: the New Zealand Infantry/Inspiring Hero swarm. My picks showed it would never face its biggest weakness: a heavy tank team. It seemed to me one of the few teams that could take down the two flamer heavy teams, which I picked to go very far. Where my picks were wrong, I put the correct winning team in parentheses.
Bracketology:
First Bracket:
Game 1: Seed 16
Game 2: Seed 15 (Seed 2)
Game 3: Seed 14 (Seed 3)
Game 4: Seed 13
Game 5: Seed 5
Game 6: Seed 11
Game 7: Seed 10 (Seed 7)
Game 8: Seed 8
Game 17: Seed 15 (Seed 16)
Game 18: Seed 13 (Seed 3)
Game 19: Seed 11
Game 20: Seed 8 (Seed 7)
Game 25: Seed 13 (Seed 16)
Game 26: Seed 11. (Seed 7)
First Bracket Champion: Seed 11 (20X Flamer)
Second Bracket
Game 9: Seed 16 (Seed 1)
Game 10: Seed 2
Game 11: Seed 3
Game 12: Seed 13
Game 13: Seed 5
Game 14: Seed 6
Game 15: Seed 7 (Seed 10)
Game 16: Seed 8
Game 21: Seed 16 (Seed 2)
Game 22: Seed 13 (Seed 3)
Game 23: Seed 6
Game 24: Seed 8 (Seed 10)
Game 27: Seed 16
Game 28: Seed 6
Second Bracket Champion: Seed 6 (16X New Zealand Infantry, 4X BEF Infantry, Inspiring Hero)
Overall Champion: Seed 6 from the Second Bracket[/b]