(12-7-gamer) I agree with Capt. Strange, not sure why any unit needs Scout Cruiser 2. Just reduce the cost and make it Scout Cruiser.
I did also came to the same conclusion
Wouldn't this just make it a re-costed Tone then? If this is the case, why not just make a scenario specific Tone (like Op Cat Hood, Cerberus Scharnhorst)?
Is this what the "players" wanted when voting for the Mogami CV Hybrid?
(12-7-gamer) I agree with Capt. Strange, not sure why any unit needs Scout Cruiser 2. Just reduce the cost and make it Scout Cruiser.
I did also came to the same conclusion
Wouldn't this just make it a re-costed Tone then? If this is the case, why not just make a scenario specific Tone (like Op Cat Hood, Cerberus Scharnhorst)?
Is this what the "players" wanted when voting for the Mogami CV Hybrid?
Tee
As a matter of fact I was for giving her Scout Cruiser and Scout Planes SAs
SCOUT PLANES: At the beginning of your Air Attack phase, you may choose an enemy ship. Roll one extra attack die when making Torpedo attacks against that ship this turn
SCOUT CRUISER: At the beginning of your Air Attack step, you may choose an enemy ship. Your units roll one extra attack die when making Bomb or Gunnery attacks against that ship this turn
(12-7-Gamer) I agree with Capt. Strange, not sure why any unit needs Scout Cruiser 2. Just reduce the cost and make it Scout Cruiser.
I did also came to the same conclusion
Wouldn't this just make it a re-costed Tone then? If this is the case, why not just make a scenario specific Tone (like Op Cat Hood, Cerberus Scharnhorst)?
Is this what the "players" wanted when voting for the Mogami CV Hybrid?
Tee
As a matter of fact I was for giving her Scout Cruiser and Scout Planes SAs
SCOUT PLANES: At the beginning of your Air Attack phase, you may choose an enemy ship. Roll one extra attack die when making Torpedo attacks against that ship this turn
SCOUT CRUISER: At the beginning of your Air Attack step, you may choose an enemy ship. Your units roll one extra attack die when making Bomb or Gunnery attacks against that ship this turn
Way more open to Heavy's idea of Mogami having both aircraft buffs. Although, I feel this would warrant a significant price bump to @25 with AA Barrage removed (due to space constraints) or 26/27 if that stays as well.
(12-7-gamer) I agree with Capt. Strange, not sure why any unit needs Scout Cruiser 2. Just reduce the cost and make it Scout Cruiser.
I did also came to the same conclusion
Wouldn't this just make it a re-costed Tone then? If this is the case, why not just make a scenario specific Tone (like Op Cat Hood, Cerberus Scharnhorst)?
Is this what the "players" wanted when voting for the Mogami CV Hybrid?
Tee
I was referring specifically to the Scout Cruiser 2 SA, not the other SA's that were proposed.
(Brigman) I don't know. Seems kind of interesting to me. It did carry twice as many planes as Tone/Chikuma.
I have no issues with the unit as proposed. Certainly it is something different.
I would be more concerned with having another Scout Planes unit on the map (allowing up to 3 spotting cruisers per game). IJN torps do not need the help.
It would also make an Amagi fleet build brutal. Combined Operations encourages having LL units in addition to Amagi. A Scout Plane, Scout Cruiser Mogami would be kind of an insane boost to both for the cost. Potential 19/18/18/16 BB gunnery and boosts to long-lance units. Just worth noting.
From my perspective I was expecting a scout plane detachment (it was able to carry up to 11 Aichi floatplanes) that could provide shadowing, a decent bomb attack, and a better armor/vital than the standard scout plane SA.
I honestly wasn't expecting a Scout Cruiser 2 ability.
Nobody expects the Japanese SC2!
But really, my initial reaction is that this unit reeks of power creep. However, to determine just how much I'd have to playtest it. Any takers?
Is any body paying attention here!! What 1942 or later USN BB is concerned about an extra BB MG attack other than Musashi;;. is the Judy D4y3 now the Helldiver I'll take anything that keeps those IJN air Torpedo's attacks at bay. No one should worry this thing is obsoleting an over cost Tone; if your playing 1941-2 Tone is a fine unit. Something better than this is needed to replace my Chikuma Builds If i want AA I'm taking Maya over this any time.
She is not adding anything to the game the IJN already has; except you can economist at a reasonable cost. I think its an interesting compromise by the Team in the ares's of Cost; Attack and Defense.