DECK G: USS Hornet Operation

flakstruk
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DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 28, 2022 6:17:54 GMT

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Post by flakstruk on Mar 28, 2022 6:17:54 GMT

This vote will determine the naming a focus of the operation USS Hornet in Deck G

Battle of Midway
-Dive bomber strike failed to locate japanese fleet. Some returning aircraft were forced to ditch
-Unescorted torpedo bomber attack was destroyed entirely. 1 man from 30 survived.
-Unsuccessful attacks against escort ships after main attack cripped IJN carriers.

Ocean Island & Nauru Fient
-With USS Enterprise, was dispatched to discourage a japanese invasion of the phosphor rich islands.
-detected by japanese scouting aircraft, the invasion attempt was cancelled

Santa Cruz Islands
-Launched 1st and 3rd strikes on Japanese Fleet
-1st wave crippling Shokaku with bombs
-1st wave missed Tone with torpedoes
-3rd wave damaged Chikuma with bombs
-Japanese Strike hits hornet with several bombs, 2 torpedoes and 2 aircraft.
-Attempt is made to tow Hornet away.
-Further japanese air attacks frustrate this and she is ordered scuttled.
-Despite hundred of shells and 10 torpedoes. She is finally sunk by long lances from approaching japanese warships

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Last Edit: Mar 28, 2022 9:13:25 GMT by flakstruk

nrnstraswa Forumini Lieutenant Posts: 614	DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 28, 2022 15:52:48 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by nrnstraswa on Mar 28, 2022 15:52:48 GMT Santa Cruz Hornet makes the most sense, shame she didn't survive the battle.
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brenticus86 Forumini Ensign Posts: 420	DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 28, 2022 18:15:56 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by brenticus86 on Mar 28, 2022 18:15:56 GMT Mar 28, 2022 15:52:48 GMT nrnstraswa said: Santa Cruz Hornet makes the most sense, shame she didn't survive the battle. I’d say pretty much any of the survivor SA’s could apply.

TrickiVic Forumini Lieutenant Posts: 678	DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 29, 2022 0:21:40 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by TrickiVic on Mar 29, 2022 0:21:40 GMT Santa Cruz makes the most sense.
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brenticus86 Forumini Ensign Posts: 420	DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 30, 2022 14:17:47 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by brenticus86 on Mar 30, 2022 14:17:47 GMT Almost makes more sense for a non-operational Hornet. Doolittle raid pretty much dominates the original.

flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 8,357	DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 30, 2022 18:49:21 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Mar 30, 2022 18:49:21 GMT Operational is just how reprint units are done. It describes the naming more than anything

gaz01
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DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 31, 2022 11:36:02 GMT

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Post by gaz01 on Mar 31, 2022 11:36:02 GMT

It's a pity the Doolittle ability couldn't have been redone and made more game effective. Whatever the new card becomes, it will surpass and likely finish the old one off completely. The raid is linked to Hornet before anything else and it's a shame the nod to this will disappear.

Last Edit: Mar 31, 2022 11:37:18 GMT by gaz01

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brenticus86
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DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 31, 2022 13:36:08 GMT via mobile

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Post by brenticus86 on Mar 31, 2022 13:36:08 GMT

Doolittle Raid was an effective operation for what it was designed to do. Show Japan they weren’t invulnerable and as a morale booster back home.

Tactically it really doesn’t fit the game we’re playing.

waratseanut Forumini Ensign Posts: 52	DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 31, 2022 14:17:21 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by waratseanut on Mar 31, 2022 14:17:21 GMT I always prefer to use the USS Hornet card from the All Nations decks. Doesn't have the Embark B-25 SA.

flakstruk
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DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 31, 2022 17:02:34 GMT

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Post by flakstruk on Mar 31, 2022 17:02:34 GMT

Mar 31, 2022 11:36:02 GMT gaz01 said:

It's a pity the Doolittle ability couldn't have been redone and made more game effective. Whatever the new card becomes, it will surpass and likely finish the old one off completely. The raid is linked to Hornet before anything else and it's a shame the nod to this will disappear.

Im hopeful the b-25 in this deck goes some way to achieving that

waratsea4
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DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 31, 2022 18:19:39 GMT

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Post by waratsea4 on Mar 31, 2022 18:19:39 GMT

I agree with thinking the original Hornet with the Embark B-25 SA was RB's kind of Operational Hornet.
Using the SA took a lot from the Carrier and the SA itself took away from other useful carrier SA's.
I see nothing wrong with adding to the game a Yorktown Class Carrier called Hornet.
Expansion has gone to far to worry about how reprints have to be done.

The others had Survivor and Damage Control so adding that would be redundant;
Hiryu's Evade Bombs seems nice
Roosevelt said the attack came from Shangri-La;; makes for a nice SA; I could see the possibilities there.
Surprise Raid without the initiative roll ;; The Bismarck Breakout ;; Something along the surprise lines.
I'm sure a lot of players could come up with something nice.

I guess the leadership would say its to late to change anything, but who needs another Hornet with an operational stigma added to it.

flakstruk
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DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Mar 31, 2022 20:18:19 GMT

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Post by flakstruk on Mar 31, 2022 20:18:19 GMT

Mar 31, 2022 18:19:39 GMT waratsea4 said:

I agree with thinking the original Hornet with the Embark B-25 SA was RB's kind of Operational Hornet.
Using the SA took a lot from the Carrier and the SA itself took away from other useful carrier SA's.
I see nothing wrong with adding to the game a Yorktown Class Carrier called Hornet.
Expansion has gone to far to worry about how reprints have to be done.

The others had Survivor and Damage Control so adding that would be redundant;
Hiryu's Evade Bombs seems nice
Roosevelt said the attack came from Shangri-La;; makes for a nice SA; I could see the possibilities there.
Surprise Raid without the initiative roll ;; The Bismarck Breakout ;; Something along the surprise lines.
I'm sure a lot of players could come up with something nice.

I guess the leadership would say its to late to change anything, but who needs another Hornet with an operational stigma added to it.

Welcome back,

Itll be available for public development as operational unit in a few months. I just needed the operation to get the list sorted correctly

waratsea4
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DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Apr 1, 2022 0:16:38 GMT

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Post by waratsea4 on Apr 1, 2022 0:16:38 GMT

Mar 31, 2022 20:18:19 GMT flakstruk said:

Mar 31, 2022 18:19:39 GMT waratsea4 said:

I agree with thinking the original Hornet with the Embark B-25 SA was RB's kind of Operational Hornet.
Using the SA took a lot from the Carrier and the SA itself took away from other useful carrier SA's.
I see nothing wrong with adding to the game a Yorktown Class Carrier called Hornet.
Expansion has gone to far to worry about how reprints have to be done.

The others had Survivor and Damage Control so adding that would be redundant;
Hiryu's Evade Bombs seems nice
Roosevelt said the attack came from Shangri-La;; makes for a nice SA; I could see the possibilities there.
Surprise Raid without the initiative roll ;; The Bismarck Breakout ;; Something along the surprise lines.
I'm sure a lot of players could come up with something nice.

I guess the leadership would say its to late to change anything, but who needs another Hornet with an operational stigma added to it.

Welcome back,

Itll be available for public development as operational unit in a few months. I just needed the operation to get the list sorted correctly

HI and Thanks; Yes I know, it's not the time for that; just felt a good old fashion Yorktown Class would hit the spot, not many left.
Really couldn't vote for an operational option, this one seem to have a little wiggle room.
Not trying to rain on anyones parade, your team will do as they deem fit. I just had 2 cents to spend now I'm broke. Good luck with the deck.

attackercat
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DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Apr 4, 2022 17:44:12 GMT

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Post by attackercat on Apr 4, 2022 17:44:12 GMT

Mar 28, 2022 18:15:56 GMT brenticus86 said:

Mar 28, 2022 15:52:48 GMT nrnstraswa said:

Santa Cruz Hornet makes the most sense, shame she didn't survive the battle.

I’d say pretty much any of the survivor SA’s could apply.

My thoughts exactly, allows for more versatile SAs and the Hornet mini that WOTC has is even the same paint scheme.

It's just asking for the card at this point. Lol

flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 8,357	DECK G: USS Hornet Operation Apr 11, 2022 12:26:10 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Apr 11, 2022 12:26:10 GMT Okey doke. Thankyou all

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DECK G: USS Hornet Operation

Post by flakstruk on Mar 28, 2022 6:17:54 GMT

Post by nrnstraswa on Mar 28, 2022 15:52:48 GMT

Post by brenticus86 on Mar 28, 2022 18:15:56 GMT

Post by TrickiVic on Mar 29, 2022 0:21:40 GMT

Post by brenticus86 on Mar 30, 2022 14:17:47 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Mar 30, 2022 18:49:21 GMT

Post by gaz01 on Mar 31, 2022 11:36:02 GMT

Post by brenticus86 on Mar 31, 2022 13:36:08 GMT

Post by waratseanut on Mar 31, 2022 14:17:21 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Mar 31, 2022 17:02:34 GMT

Post by waratsea4 on Mar 31, 2022 18:19:39 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Mar 31, 2022 20:18:19 GMT

Post by waratsea4 on Apr 1, 2022 0:16:38 GMT

Post by attackercat on Apr 4, 2022 17:44:12 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Apr 11, 2022 12:26:10 GMT

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