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Question 're Valerian Kuibishev Feb 5, 2021 22:58:18 GMT

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I was just looking at this card from deck E and I was surprised to see it SLOW 1. These were fast destroyers when built 34 knots. They had lost some speed by ww2, but I didn't think it was down to 22/23? Was this due to something particular to this ship or were the whole class this slow by 41?

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Question 're Valerian Kuibishev Feb 6, 2021 1:52:01 GMT via mobile

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Post by flakstruk on Feb 6, 2021 1:52:01 GMT

Feb 5, 2021 22:58:18 GMT admiralduncan said:

I was just looking at this card from deck E and I was surprised to see it SLOW 1. These were fast destroyers when built 34 knots. They had lost some speed by ww2, but I didn't think it was down to 22/23? Was this due to something particular to this ship or were the whole class this slow by 41?

When they were adapted for escort dutues, many were modified to extend range by removing some boilers and machinery

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Question 're Valerian Kuibishev Feb 6, 2021 10:05:54 GMT

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Feb 6, 2021 1:52:01 GMT flakstruk said:

Feb 5, 2021 22:58:18 GMT admiralduncan said:

I was just looking at this card from deck E and I was surprised to see it SLOW 1. These were fast destroyers when built 34 knots. They had lost some speed by ww2, but I didn't think it was down to 22/23? Was this due to something particular to this ship or were the whole class this slow by 41?

When they were adapted for escort duties, many were modified to extend range by removing some boilers and machinery

Ah yes, that makes sense. So the unmodified 'Noviks' would still be speed 2. Perhaps we need a Yakov Sverdlov at some time in the future?

Thanks for that.

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flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 9,839	Question 're Valerian Kuibishev Feb 6, 2021 10:43:51 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Feb 6, 2021 10:43:51 GMT Sorry, im thinking of the lend lease destroyers. Ww1 novik, im not sure.

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Question 're Valerian Kuibishev Feb 6, 2021 10:56:25 GMT via mobile

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Post by flakstruk on Feb 6, 2021 10:56:25 GMT

I went and found the dev thread on old forumini and apparently its a class feature of the ship. The type iv and v subclasses specifically.

The references used to identify this are

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Question 're Valerian Kuibishev Feb 6, 2021 10:59:39 GMT

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Feb 6, 2021 10:43:51 GMT flakstruk said:

Sorry, im thinking of the lend lease destroyers. Ww1 novik, im not sure.

Valerian Kuibishev was a Novik class, so my original question still stands. Does anyone know why it's SLOW 1?

It was sent to the Arctic in the 30's and was certainly involved in the battles up there. Maybe the Noviks in the Arctic had similar alterations made?

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Question 're Valerian Kuibishev Feb 6, 2021 11:08:14 GMT

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Post by admiralduncan on Feb 6, 2021 11:08:14 GMT

Feb 6, 2021 10:56:25 GMT flakstruk said:

I went and found the dev thread on old forumini and apparently its a class feature of the ship. The type iv and v subclasses specifically.

The references used to identify this are

"The best reference I have for Soviet ships is Soviet Warships of the Second World War by Jrg Meister. I also have the listings in Fleets of WWII"

Thanks. I've just ordered it off E-bay! Hardback, £10.99 with free postage. Not bad.

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weedsrock2 Administrator Posts: 5,199	Question 're Valerian Kuibishev Feb 6, 2021 20:24:06 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by weedsrock2 on Feb 6, 2021 20:24:06 GMT Valerian Kuibishev maximum speed was 24 knots according to Soviet Warships of the Second World War. 24 knots is the top end of the Slow 1 category. Speed 2 is 25 knots and above.
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Question 're Valerian Kuibishev Feb 8, 2021 12:30:58 GMT

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Post by admiralduncan on Feb 8, 2021 12:30:58 GMT

Feb 6, 2021 20:24:06 GMT weedsrock2 said:

Valerian Kuibishev maximum speed was 24 knots according to Soviet Warships of the Second World War. 24 knots is the top end of the Slow 1 category. Speed 2 is 25 knots and above.

I'm surprised it had lost that much speed. Soviet Destroyers of WW2 by Alexander Hill has a specific reference to the VK. It has it at 30.5 kn in 1932 and then 28.75kn by 1941?

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Question 're Valerian Kuibishev

Post by admiralduncan on Feb 5, 2021 22:58:18 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Feb 6, 2021 1:52:01 GMT

Post by admiralduncan on Feb 6, 2021 10:05:54 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Feb 6, 2021 10:43:51 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Feb 6, 2021 10:56:25 GMT

Post by admiralduncan on Feb 6, 2021 10:59:39 GMT

Post by admiralduncan on Feb 6, 2021 11:08:14 GMT

Post by weedsrock2 on Feb 6, 2021 20:24:06 GMT

Post by admiralduncan on Feb 8, 2021 12:30:58 GMT

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