Russian Destroyer Zhivuchiy *Done*

Is this one of the lend lease destroyers that was modified with less power/speed and extended range?

Looking at the soviet cards - close escort and smoke would be quite useful.

Yeah. Speed reduction was down to 25knots. So still speed too.

I thought that also

Sitting at 6 points

Ram would be interesting considering it can be deployed at a Forward Naval Base. Could help clean out enemy subs through the center of the map.

And a Soviet Close Escort would be a very nice addition. Right now only the Baku can join two other ships, and they have to be destroyers.

I shouldn't have said "suggested sas" what I actually was meaning is possible sas.

So I agree totally that having both is overkill

"These vessels were originally armed with 4 inch (4 x1) and one 3 inch (AA guns and twelve 21-inch (4 x 3 ) TT when transferred to the Royal Navy in 1940. Their armament was much reduced to improve AA and A/S qualities, and seaworthiness, and sea and air warning radar was added. Eight of these former American destroyers were handed over by the RN in the UK to the Soviet Northern Fleet 30/5/44 and reached Polyarnoye on 24/8/44. The ninth vessel, Drushny, was handed over 26/8/44 as a "spare parts" ship, but was also commissioned by the Soviet Navy after its arrival 32/9/44."

The books gives the following specifications for the ships as delivered to the Soviets:

1,090 tons displacement
314 ft 3 in length oa, 30 ft, 8 in beam
35 kts

Nothing really changed on base specifications from the as-built. They still had four stacks, but the after three stacks were cut down a bit in height to improve stability. For our purposes the main difference is the armament.

Armament: 1 x 4 in, 1 x 12 pdr AA, 6 x 20 mm AA (6 x 1), 6 x 533 mm TT (2 x 3)

No mention of the ASW armament.

Destroyers of World War Two by Whitley gives the same revised armament (Except only 4 x 20 mm) and says "Depth-charge stowage was increased and asdic installed." while in British hands. But does not say what that DC stowage was specifically.

Finally! Conway's says the British refit them with the following armament:

1 x 4 in, 1 x 12 pdr AA, 3 or 4 x 20 mm, 3 x 21 in Mk II TT (1 x 3), and 60 or 80 DCs.

Pooling the best of that together gives:

1 x 4 in, 1 x 12 pdr AA, 6 x 20 mm (6 x 1), 6 x 21 in TT (2 x 3). 2 x DCR, 1 x DCT and 60 - 80 DCs


So the attack stats according to the guidelines would be the following:

Mains: 2/2/1 (Sackville)
AA: 4
ASW: 4 (possibly 5 if very generous, but probably better to give 4 plus an ASW SA)
TT: 2/1
Armor: 2/5/2

Soviets have no proper smoke or close escort. With low stats and ability to use anb. Seems flexible enough. Ram is very situational and they got subhunter last deck