Type XXI U-Boat

The standard in War at Sea for a torpedo stat line better than 3/3/2/- seems to be pretty high. See the Guidelines: forumini.boards.net/thread/15/guidelines-stats#SubmarineStats

In general, getting to a better torpedo line seems to take a very high number of tubes (Truculent) or long range torpedoes (Japan). Its worth noting the only significant difference in tubes between the Type-VII and the Type-IX is one aft facing tube, and there is a difference in torpedo stats (3/2/2 vs/ 3/3/2). This suggests RB (the designer) was giving some credit for the aft tubes and why he likely counted the 6 tubes on a Type XXI as roughly the same as the 6 total tubes on a Type-IX. Not perfect, but War at Sea isn't a particularly precise game.

In general, I don't think RB gave much credit for "rate of fire" on a number of weapons. For example, there is really no accounting for torpedo reload rates or number of reload torpedoes on surface ships. It would have been relatively rare for a surface ship to get off more than one salvo of torpedoes in a ship to ship engagement, but in War at Sea torpedo equipped ships can fire every turn, even if they really didn't have much in the way of reloads.  With 23 reloads, U-2511 would probably be out of fish after 4-5 turns of shooting in the real world, but in War at Sea, she never stops.

That said, a cleaner way to do it might be a sister sub to U-2511 with an SA like Torpedo Salvo or Audacious Attack. No matter how high the rate of fire, a second salvo of torpedoes would still be...a second salvo, not part of a singular wave of torpedoes against a target.

Personally, I don't use U-2511 all that often because she lacks Wolfpack and her relatively high cost for the number of torpedoes she fires each turn.  Her durability is pretty insane though (its a darn-near unsinkable sub).  I generally find I get more bang for my buck with a couple 11-12 point subs. I wouldn't mind seeing a more aggressive boat from U-2511's class, but its always going to have stiff competition for "on-the-map" time from a more numerous pack of high-efficiency subs like U-510 and U-66. A second shot in a turn, even if only once per game, might change that calculus a bit.  Could easily be talking about a sub that could cost 25+ points though, pretty pricey.