French Destroyer Albatros *DONE*

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French Destroyer Albatros *DONE* Sept 24, 2018 1:24:59 GMT

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Albatros

Aigile Class Destroyer

Commissioned: December 1931

Fate: Scrapped
September 1959
Displacement: 2,441 tons standard

Length (OA): 401 ft 7 in

Beam: 38 ft, 10 in

Speed: 36 kts

Armor : None

Armament:5-5in/40 Mod 27 (5x1)
, 4-37mm AA (2x2), 4-13.2mm AA (2x2), 6 21.7in TT, 2X DCR, 16 DCs

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Suggested card stats:

Ship - Destroyer

1931
Speed: 2

MG: 5-5-4

AA: 5

ASW: 4

TT: 2-1-1

A/VA/HP: 2/7/2

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History

Bombarded targets in Genoa and Savona before the French capitulation

Resisted the US Torch landings, sustaining damage from heavy fire from 3 US cruisers as well as bombs from carrier borne aircraft. Was beached to prevent sinking

Last Edit: Sept 23, 2019 1:27:17 GMT by weedsrock2

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flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 9,839	French Destroyer Albatros DONE Sept 24, 2018 2:51:50 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Sept 24, 2018 2:51:50 GMT Milan sister

CommanderSam Forumini Ensign Posts: 232	French Destroyer Albatros DONE Sept 26, 2018 12:59:47 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by CommanderSam on Sept 26, 2018 12:59:47 GMT Regarding her bomb resistance, I think there was a SA on Laffey that could match.

flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 9,839	French Destroyer Albatros DONE Sept 30, 2018 5:53:25 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Sept 30, 2018 5:53:25 GMT Id definately be looking at some manner of surface survival SA for engaging overwhelming force. Tenacity maybe. Cruiser hunter as well?

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French Destroyer Albatros *DONE* Oct 7, 2018 19:25:41 GMT

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Post by weedsrock2 on Oct 7, 2018 19:25:41 GMT

Sept 30, 2018 5:53:25 GMT flakstruk said:

Id definately be looking at some manner of surface survival SA for engaging overwhelming force. Tenacity maybe. Cruiser hunter as well?

I think that would be an appropriate combo.

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French Destroyer Albatros *DONE* Oct 10, 2018 21:41:29 GMT TrickiVic likes this

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Post by au64 on Oct 10, 2018 21:41:29 GMT

Actually I was thinking Tenacity (survival) combined with Battery Silencer (shore bombardments).

Tenacity: The first time this unit would be destroyed, roll a die. On a 4 or higher, the destruction is prevented and this unit remains in the game with 1 hull point

Battery Silencer: This unit rolls one extra attack die when making Gunnery attacks against Shore Batteries and Installations

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French Destroyer Albatros *DONE* Oct 11, 2018 17:19:28 GMT

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Post by waratsea4 on Oct 11, 2018 17:19:28 GMT

An excerpt from Wikis account of the Battle of Casablanca;;

The French light cruiser Primauguet sortied with " flotilla leader " destroyer Albatros and destroyers Brestois and Frondeur.

The SA's so far suggested are fine and fitting; But

With The French carrier fleet growing and the Naval air game it brings;; they having nothing to help with ship AA values.

NO DD-- NO CA--CL;; it would be a little cheaper than going with Clemenceau.

Who knows how much long expansion will go, is their a reason its never considered ?

flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 9,839	French Destroyer Albatros DONE Oct 11, 2018 23:31:31 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Oct 11, 2018 23:31:31 GMT Its been considered and rejected on other ships. Installations are super useful. Sas pertsining to them arent real valuable

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French Destroyer Albatros *DONE* Nov 4, 2018 1:03:21 GMT TrickiVic likes this

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Post by ticat1 on Nov 4, 2018 1:03:21 GMT

Thoughts?
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Albatros
Ship - Destroyer
1931
Speed: 2
MG: 5-5-4
AA: 5
ASW: 4
TT: 2-1-1
A/VA/HP: 2/7/2

Tenacity: The first time this unit would be destroyed, roll a die. On a 4 or higher, the destruction is prevented and this unit remains in the game with 1 hull point

Battery Silencer: This unit rolls one extra attack die when making Gunnery attacks against Shore Batteries and Installations

Last Edit: Nov 4, 2018 1:04:17 GMT by ticat1

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flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 9,839	French Destroyer Albatros DONE Nov 4, 2018 2:16:23 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Nov 4, 2018 2:16:23 GMT Not battery silencer. Tenacity + cruiser something. Surface attack SA are useful in all games, not the minor percentage that include installations

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French Destroyer Albatros *DONE* Jan 25, 2019 21:21:35 GMT

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Post by weedsrock2 on Jan 25, 2019 21:21:35 GMT

Almost a necro here!

I agree with flak, SA to attack installations are pretty useless in most games. I like WaratSea4's suggestion to give the French a little break on AA.

Tenacity
AA Veteran or Desperate AA?
Lay Smoke?

(All the DDs made smoke in the harbor to try to throw off the American gunnery.)

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SWO_Daddy Deck E developer Posts: 6,016	French Destroyer Albatros DONE Jan 25, 2019 22:35:23 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by SWO_Daddy on Jan 25, 2019 22:35:23 GMT Tenacity + Smoke could be pretty nasty, and might obsolete Milan if not costed appropriately. I like the idea of Tenacity + an AA SA better.
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French Destroyer Albatros *DONE* Jan 26, 2019 19:28:11 GMT

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Post by weedsrock2 on Jan 26, 2019 19:28:11 GMT

Jan 25, 2019 22:35:23 GMT SWO_Daddy said:

Tenacity + Smoke could be pretty nasty, and might obsolete Milan if not costed appropriately. I like the idea of Tenacity + an AA SA better.

Good point on the Milan. Tenacity plus AA seems good to me.

Which AA?

AA VETERAN: Once per game, this unit may reroll one Antiair attack.

(Australia)

DESPERATE AA: Once per game, before you roll this unit's Antiair attack against an enemy Aircraft, you may declare that you're using Desperate AA. If you do, roll two extra attack dice against that Aircraft.

(Kidd, Houston)

Last Edit: Jan 26, 2019 19:31:13 GMT by weedsrock2

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SWO_Daddy Deck E developer Posts: 6,016	French Destroyer Albatros DONE Jan 27, 2019 1:28:27 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by SWO_Daddy on Jan 27, 2019 1:28:27 GMT Its kind of a toss up in my mind, though I find Desperate AA to be more useful/effective than AA Veteran. Kind of depends on how awesome a unit this should be in a 1-turn AA role.
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French Destroyer Albatros *DONE* Jan 27, 2019 20:38:29 GMT

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Post by weedsrock2 on Jan 27, 2019 20:38:29 GMT

I prefer Desperate AA too. Who doesn't want 7 dice in their hand over 5? However, this has come up before in the development teams. According to mnnorthstars, AA Veteran with 5 dice is statistically a better option than Desperate AA. So I guess this is a case where intuition fails over math. Even so, I still like Desperate AA better. It "feels" good.

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French Destroyer Albatros DONE

Post by ticat1 on Sept 24, 2018 1:24:59 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Sept 24, 2018 2:51:50 GMT

Post by CommanderSam on Sept 26, 2018 12:59:47 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Sept 30, 2018 5:53:25 GMT

Post by weedsrock2 on Oct 7, 2018 19:25:41 GMT

Post by au64 on Oct 10, 2018 21:41:29 GMT

Post by waratsea4 on Oct 11, 2018 17:19:28 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Oct 11, 2018 23:31:31 GMT

Post by ticat1 on Nov 4, 2018 1:03:21 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Nov 4, 2018 2:16:23 GMT

Post by weedsrock2 on Jan 25, 2019 21:21:35 GMT

Post by SWO_Daddy on Jan 25, 2019 22:35:23 GMT

Post by weedsrock2 on Jan 26, 2019 19:28:11 GMT

Post by SWO_Daddy on Jan 27, 2019 1:28:27 GMT

Post by weedsrock2 on Jan 27, 2019 20:38:29 GMT

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