Mosquito AAAF

Azrael Forumini Ensign Everything Axis and Allies Facebook Group Admin Posts: 248	Mosquito AAAF May 4, 2018 21:31:40 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Azrael on May 4, 2018 21:31:40 GMT How would a mosquito translate stat and ability wise into AAAF?
	Everything Axis and Allies on Facebook the largest and most active Axis and Allies group ! m.facebook.com/groups/163123007675067?multi_permalinks=170745673579467¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic¬if_id=1529151221680183&ref=m_notif

mnnorthstars Deck E developer Posts: 9,163	Mosquito AAAF May 4, 2018 22:33:48 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mnnorthstars on May 4, 2018 22:33:48 GMT Bzzz bzzz hey that itches!
	Keeper of the Leigh Light Join Club Vichy!

mnnorthstars Deck E developer Posts: 9,163	Mosquito AAAF May 5, 2018 3:19:42 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mnnorthstars on May 5, 2018 3:19:42 GMT Seriously, though, can you post some stats to work off of? I can’t internet today apparently.
	Keeper of the Leigh Light Join Club Vichy!

Azrael
Forumini Ensign

Everything Axis and Allies Facebook Group Admin

Posts: 248

Mosquito AAAF May 5, 2018 10:31:06 GMT via mobile

Quote

Post by Azrael on May 5, 2018 10:31:06 GMT

will have to research this on my days off work

Using the bf 110 as an inferior template

Attack 8/6/4
3ar/8vi/4 hit points
Turn 1 roll 2 climb 3 dive 5

Limited agility long range 4 rear gun

And the guide pasted below

By NeuralDream

Copied from the original Forumini forum. I reference these guidelines a lot:

Stats are based almost exclusively on the airframe, but the pilot has a minor influence too. Poor pilots always have worse flight stats (turn, roll, climb and often dive are usually -1). All other pilot levels seem to have the same stats.

The pilot has stronger influence on the special abilities.

ATTACK
-------
4x 20mm + 2x7.92mm (FW190A2?) = 9 / 7 / 5
1x 20mm Hispano M2(C) + 4x .50in (P-38J) = 8 / 6 / 5
4x 20mm Hispano II (Typhoon Ib) = 8 / 6 / 4
6x .50in (F4F4 wildcat, P-51D, F4U) = 8 /6 / 4
2x 20mm + 2x .50in (Spit IX) = 8 / 6 / 3
2x 20mm MG151/20 + 2x 13mm (190D) = 7 / 5 / 4
2x .50in + 4x 7.7mm + 37mm Cannon (P-39D2) = 7 / 5 / 3 + Heavy Cannon SA
2x .50in + 4x 7.7mm (P-40B, P-40C) = 7 / 5 / 3
2x 20mm ShVAK + 2x 7.62mm ShKAS (IL2, 1942) = 7 / 5 / 3
1x 20mm + 4x 7.92mm (BF109E-3) = 7 / 4 / 3
2x 20mm Type 99 + 2x 7.7mm (A6M2-21, A6M3) = 7 / 4 / 2
4x .50in or equiv. (P51B, P51C, F4F3, FM-1, Ki-44, Ki-61, B-239) = 6 / 5 / 3
1x 20mm Hispano HS404 + 4x 7.5mm (D520) = 6 / 4 / 3
Unspecified Soviet field mod with less than the original 2x 12.7 mm + 4 x 7.7mm + 37mm Cannon (P-39N) = 6 / 4 / 2 + Heavy Cannon SA
2× 20 mm ShVAK (La-5FN) = 6 / 4 / 2
8x 7.7mm (Spit I, Fulmar II) = 6 / 4 / 2
6x 7.92mm (IAR80A) = 5 / 3 / 2
2x 12.7mm + 2x 7.7mm (Re2001FalcoII, Re2001CB) = 5 / 3 / 2
1x 20mm + 1x 12.7mm (Yak1) = 5 / 3 / 2
1x 20mm + 2x 7.92mm (BF109G2) = 5 / 3 / 2
1x 15mm + 2x 7.92mm (BF109F2) = 5 / 3 / 2 - A bit generous
2x .50in + 1x 7.7mm (Buffalo I) = 5 / 3 / 2
1x 20mm + 2x 7.5mm (MS.406) = 4 / 3 / 2
4x 7.7mm (I-16 type 10 [and early Type 24?]) = 4 / 3 / 2
2x 12.7mm (Ki-43) = 4 / 3 / 2
2x 12.7mm (MC.200) = 4 / 3 / - A bit harsh; reflects weaker Italian guns
2x 7.92mm (Ju87B-2) = 3 / 2 / -

SPEED / HI-SPEED (uses only max speed at optimal altitude)
------
707 km/h (P51C, FW190D) = 2-4 / 5-7
681 Km/h (P38J) = 2-4 / 5-7
671 km/h (F4U) = 2-4 / 5-7
665 km/h (BF109G2) = 2-4 / 5-6
663 km/h (TyphoonIb) = 2-4 / 5-6
657 km/h (Spit IX) = 2-4 / 5-6
648 km/h (La5FN) = 2-4 / 5-6
615 km/h (BF109F2) = 2-4 / 5-6
602 km/h (MC.202) = 2-4 / 5-6
591 km/h (SpitfireI) = 2-4 / 5
570 km/h (Ki61, P40B, P40C, TomahawkII) = 2-4 / 5
564 km/h (BF109E) = 2-3 / 4-5
550 km/h (Re2001) = 2-3 / 4-5
541 km/h (BF110C) = 2-3 / 4-5
530 km/h (A6M2-21) = 2-3 / 4-5
525 km/h (F4F3) = 2-3 / 4 + Full power 5
515 km/h (F4F4) = 2-3 / 4
515 km/h (HurricaneI) = 2-3 / 4
510 km/h (IAR80A) = 2-3 / 4
504 km/h (MC200) = 2-3 /4
500 km/h (B239) = 2-3 / 4
496 km/h (Ki43-Ic) = 2-3 / 4
486 km/h (MS406) = 2-3 / 4
448 km/h (I16Type10: China) = 2-3 / -
438 km/h (FulmarII) = 2 / 3
410 km/h (IL2) = 2 / - + Full power 3
385 km/h (Ju87B2) = ?? 1-2 / - + Full power 3 (presumably the 1-2 is due to manoeuvrability at low speeds)

TURN
-----
15.0s Ki43Ic Vet - 7
16.9s A6M2-21 Vet/Ace - 6
17.3s A6M3 Poor/Ave - 5 / 6
17.8s Spit HF.IX Ave/Vet - 5
18.6s Hurri I Ave/Vet - 5
18.6s La5FN Ace - 5
18.8s Buffalo I Poor - 4
19.8s P39-N Vet - 4
19.9s P39-D Poor - 3
19.9s Ju87B2 Ave - 4
20.0s P40C Vet - 4
20.5s P40B Poor/Ave (TomahawkII) - 3 / 4
20.8s Bf109G Ace - 4
21.0s Fulmar II Ave (Fulmar I value) - 4
21.99s Ki61 Ave/Ace (ki61I-Hei?) - 4
22.2s IAR80A Ave - 5
22.6s F4U-1 (1C?) Ave/Vet - 4
23.5s Bf109E Ave/Ace - 4
23.8s P-51B/C Ave/Ace - 4
24.0s FW190A Ave/Vet/Ace - 4
24.8s P51D Vet - 4
26.0s P38J Ace - 4
27.9s IL2 Ave - 3
32.6s Bf110C Ave - 1

ROLL - Probably based on max deg./s
-----
40 deg/s BF110C Ave - 2
55 deg/s Typhoon Ib Ave/Vet - 3
56 deg/s A6M2 Vet/Ace - 3 / 4
65 deg/s Hurri I Ave/Vet - 4
66 deg/s Spit I Ace - 4
69 deg/s F4F Wildcat Ave/Vet - 4
75 deg/s P39-D Poor - 3
90 deg/s P-51B/C Ave/Ace - 4
95 deg/s P40C Vet - 5
130 (estim.) deg/s FW190D Poor/Vet - 4 / 5
162 deg/s FW190A Ave/Vet/Ace - 6

CLIMB
------
09.4 m/s Fulmar II Ave - 1
11.2 m/s F4F Wildcat Ave/Vet - 2
11.7 m/s Ju87B2 Ave - 2

12.5 m/s Spit I Ace - 4
13.0 m/s French MS406 Poor - 3
13.0 m/s P40C Vet - 3
13.1 m/s IL2 Ave - 3
13.4 m/s Hurri I Ave/Vet - 3
13.4 m/s C200 Poor/Vet - 4
13.8 m/s P39-D Poor - 3
14.0 m/s Yak1 Poor/Vet - 3 / 4
14.4 m/s Buffalo I Poor - 3
14.7 m/s P39-N Vet - 4
15.2 m/s A6M2 Vet/Ace - 5
15.2 m/s F4U-1 Ave/Vet - 5
16.7 m/s La5FN Ace - 6
16.8 m/s FW190D Poor/Vet - 4 / 5
16.8 m/s Ki43Ic(?) Vet - 5
16.9 m/s Bf109F Vet - 5
17.5 m/s A6M3 Poor/Ave - 4 / 5
17.8 m/s P51D Vet - 6
19.6 m/s Spit HF.IX Ave/Vet - 7
20.0 m/s Ki44 Vet - 7
20.5 m/s P38J Ace - 7

DIVE
-----
2 (A6M2-21)
3 (MC.200)
4 (Yak-1)
4 (SpitfireI) - presumably due to carburetor engine?
5 (BF109E, wildcat, SpitIX)
6 (P-40C)

ARMOR / VITAL ARMOR
-----------------
(According to R.B.) Based on armor and ruggedness of construction
- Sturdy effectively adds + 0.5 to Armor
- Rugged effectively adds + 0.5 to Vital

2/5 (A6M2-21, A6M3, MS406, Ki43)
2/5 + Absorb Punishment (B239)
2/6.5 (MC.200)
3/5 (BF109E, Yak-1, I-16, D520, Re2001CB)
3/6 (SpitI, SpitIX, Ki61 Ace, Ki44, IAR80A, Re2001FalcoII)
3/6 + Absorb Punishment (Buffalo I)
3.5/6 (Ki 61 Tony)
3/7 (P-38J, P-51, Ju87B2)
3/7.5 (Fulmar II)
3.5/7 (La5FN)
3/8 (BF110C)
4/7 (P-40C, wildcats, P-39, TyphoonIB, FW190A, FW190D)
4/7.5 (Corsairs)
5/8 (IL2)

HITS
-----
(According to R.B.) Based on sheer size and weight

Hits 2
empty weight: 1,490kg, length 6.13m (I-16)
empty weight: 1,680kg, length 9.06m (A6M2-21)
empty weight: 1,893kg, length 8.17m (MS.406)
empty weight: 1,964kg, length 8.25m (MC.200)
empty weight: 1,580kg, length 8.82m (Ki43-Ic variant??)
empty weight: 1,717kg, length 7.92m (B-239)
empty weight: 1,617kg, length 8.97m (IAR80A)

Hits 3
empty weight: 2,287 kg, length 8.03m (BuffaloI)
empty weight: 1,900kg, length 8.64m (BF109E)
empty weight: 1,953kg, length 9.12m (SpitI)
empty weight: 2,123kg, length 8.60m (D520)
empty weight: 2,394kg, length 8.50m (Yak-1)
empty weight: 2,495 kg, length 8.36m (Re2001)
empty weight: 2,105kg, length 9.45m (Ki44)
empty weight: 2,309kg, length 9.47m (SpitIX)
empty weight: 2,425kg, length 9.50m (P-39)
empty weight: 2,605 kg, length 8.67m (La-5FN)
empty weight: 2,674kg, length 8.80m (Wildcats)
empty weight: 2,646kg, length 9.67m (P-40C)
empty weight: 3,465 kg, length 9.83m (P-51D)
empty weight: 4,010 kg, length 9.73m (TyphoonIB)
empty weight: 4,070 kg, length 10.10m (F4U)
empty weight: 3,205 kg, length 11.00m (Ju87B2)
empty weight: 3,182kg, length 12.25m (FulmarII)

Hits 4
empty weight: 4,200 kg, length 11.60m (IL2)
empty weight: 4,500kg, length 12.20m (BF110C)
empty weight: 5,800kg, length 11.50m (P-38J)

PILOT LEVEL (in terms of personal dogfighting ability and based solely on number of kills at the time of the card's date)
------------
"Legend" >= 35 kills
Ace 5 - 34 kills
Veteran (3 - 4 kills)
Average - most pilots
Rookie - e.g. for late-war Japanese and German teenagers

Everything Axis and Allies on Facebook the largest and most active Axis and Allies group ! m.facebook.com/groups/163123007675067?multi_permalinks=170745673579467¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic¬if_id=1529151221680183&ref=m_notif

mnnorthstars
Deck E developer

Posts: 9,163

Mosquito AAAF May 5, 2018 12:20:22 GMT

Quote

Post by mnnorthstars on May 5, 2018 12:20:22 GMT

Here was the most numerous aircraft (2,289) according to www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_mosquito_stats.html

FB Mk VI

Engine: Merlin 25
HP 1,635
Max Speed; 378 mph
Ceiling: 33,300 feet
Range: 1,855
Armament: 4x.303in machine guns, 4x20mm cannon
Bombload: 2000 lb (half internal, half on wings)

Keeper of the Leigh Light

Join Club Vichy!

mnnorthstars
Deck E developer

Posts: 9,163

Mosquito AAAF May 5, 2018 12:52:18 GMT

Quote

Post by mnnorthstars on May 5, 2018 12:52:18 GMT

Speed as Folgore 2-4 / 5-6
Gunnery 7/5/3 up to 8/6/3?

www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Mosquito_Mk_VI

1,850 feet/minute climb = 9.4 m/s, Climb 1
18.9 degrees per second = 19-second turn, Turn 4
27 dps max, Roll 1 or 2
No idea how dive is calculated
“Diving accelerating is excellent, though the Mossie can't compete in a very high speed dive over 520mph. Part of the problem is that the speedometer only is marked up to 480mph and typically you will hear structural creaking and let up long before you actually are in trouble because of handling.”
Weight 10,000 kg (!)

Keeper of the Leigh Light

Join Club Vichy!

Gallery Title:
Image URL:
Image Title:
Comment:
Tick this box if you would like to allow other members to add images to your gallery.Add Image

Forumini

title

Post by Azrael on May 4, 2018 21:31:40 GMT

Post by mnnorthstars on May 4, 2018 22:33:48 GMT

Post by mnnorthstars on May 5, 2018 3:19:42 GMT

Post by Azrael on May 5, 2018 10:31:06 GMT

Post by mnnorthstars on May 5, 2018 12:20:22 GMT

Post by mnnorthstars on May 5, 2018 12:52:18 GMT

Quick Reply