Unfortunately when we’re in the 11th release of a World War II game and it’s time for the fourth 1/6/3 or 1/7/3 Carrier for the same nation it gets hard to tread new ground, especially with any sort of eye on history.
Sorry, but that sounds like you guys were beat before you started; And with IJN carriers tell outside of Shokaku and Zuikaku what did any do to deserve their great History, except get sunk in the first major battle they were in. Besides as you stated Cap 1 carriers are just not a staple of this game, one of its failures. To me mainly because the cost to SA value just isn't there. RB started down a good path with Guadalcanal; but cost got in the way and expansion did a good job with Zuiho and Hermes, outside of those few i just don't think anyone has come up with SA's that reflect what the CVE was good at. Something new and innovated is needed Replenish is close but lacking.
Unfortunately when we’re in the 11th release of a World War II game and it’s time for the fourth 1/6/3 or 1/7/3 Carrier for the same nation it gets hard to tread new ground, especially with any sort of eye on history.
Sorry, but that sounds like you guys were beat before you started; And with IJN carriers tell outside of Shokaku and Zuikaku what did any do to deserve their great History, except get sunk in the first major battle they were in. Besides as you stated Cap 1 carriers are just not a staple of this game, one of its failures. To me mainly because the cost to SA value just isn't there. RB started down a good path with Guadalcanal; but cost got in the way and expansion did a good job with Zuiho and Hermes, outside of those few i just don't think anyone has come up with SA's that reflect what the CVE was good at. Something new and innovated is needed Replenish is close but lacking.
Going to disagree entirely. Especially to the implication that we mailed it in on this one.
Sometimes less is more. I play Japan a lot and I strongly feel that this is not only accurate to history but it's also a useful game unit.
Obviously, you're free to disagree and I have no issue with that. But don't tell us we didn't make an effort
I’d be curious to know what you would have done with this ship.
To answer both you and Ticat1; No i don't think you mailed it in on this or any units you've done. Some I've talked about Yes; players want new nations; well knock yourself out. Players want to redo Originals some yes its tricky, some like Akagi leave it alone. Some like anything i like to see it more useful; AKA Columbia Killing Cruiser good yes I think we discussed they are more cost effective killing DD's. So the way you went is the way you went; i would have been if there was one on the side of a little more for a little more. I think we can all agree about Jeep Carriers and their war effort very limit and mixed depending on the Nation. USN fighting Subs in Atlantic was key; why i said Guadalcanal's new SA started down a good path along with St Lo and ASW UK Germany Italy all have nice SA's but to me the costs are a turn away. My apologies to Ticat 1 but as is i don't see the usefulness he sees for this unit.
Outside of USN invasion fleets using CVE's to relieve CVA's from some responsibilities; CVE's ferried aircraft some even flew off land base units.
So what would i do with it;
One from what i've read at the Battle of the Philippines Sea one of the two last major battles fought by IJN carriers. Ryuho was in Carrier Division 2 and that Division's planes were in 3 of the 4 attacks launched that day, so giving her an expert SA is not unfounded Expert Bomber along with Replenish for 10 is a lot more useful with your 3 so called 1-6-3 CVE's and a lot more fun to mix up in an IJN build
Second for those who feel this is to much the game really falls short on CVE ferrying abilities. Most of the time they really got the planes there; I see nothing wrong with keeping the Cap and benefiting an Airbase OPG; Something as simple as allowing one Fighter TB or DB based their to skip a rearming turn or increasing the capacity for the first turn. Embark B-25 in this case Embark Kamakaze Attack or something of that nature, we have no trouble with scout cruisers what about a scout or vector carrier;; all this could be kicked around and play tested.