Post by waratsea4 on Jan 14, 2018 2:39:14 GMT
Not trying to start anything here just how i see the new deck up to till now;
Mostly how they fit into the game and how they were done;; of course how they were done is ones preference
What i really like
Canadas Hurricane; first non Russian AV BWF plus Canada gets its Fighter with mission selection to boot
Netherlands; MV Macoma; an RB original nation; gets its first auxiliary and useful with air unit detachment
UK; Achilles; should work very well with Ajax
Implacable; how can we not love those UK 3 cap carriers
Temeraire; I think a great compromise on what the team saw and the loud mouth Foruminians saw
myself included
Melbourne Star; great to see historical units especially Auxiliaries done this well
USN; Taney and England; two nice low cost DD's with nice niches for their Navy
Germany; Atlantikwall;; Different kind of approach to Installation with a great SA
Jaguar;; Did someone just slap me in the head and say a 6 pt DD for Germany
Md 410;; He111, Sm79, they did another 3 die Torpedo PB thats actualy a little different
U-549;; can never be enough Wolfpack subs and Acoustic Torpedo
Italy; Well to me anyway Teams have given certain nations a lot of love [France][did i really write that]
but they always do a great job with Italy, How can you not say these 5 units aren't a hit
Atropo; we added mines and sub killer all for 10 pts
Bolzano; not a big fan of these so called operational but it seems this one needed doing
how it was done is subjective; but to me thumbs up
Roscanna; now thats italian, DD that is
Francesco; 42 pt BB's like this are welcome adds to making for a good mix
Orsecolo; Nice Aux always welcome with a great new SA Convoy Formation
IJN; Myrt; Nice try
Romania; JU87D 10 pt 10 cost Press the Attack DB; I'm changing the roundel to German
Now the ones i thought little of;
The new Nations Turkey; nothing i would put in my pipe
Brazil; not doing the Samba over these
France; Painleve; Fantasy's Fantasy unit, really poorly done don't see any thought process here.
Should have just let it alone at Expert Torpedo [my point being if France is building carriers and is around in 1943]
the SA's should go beyond USN aircraft intervention if your going to make it a Navy than make it its own.
I also believe those SA's hinder Frances playability as an Axis or Allies Unit
UK; Clyde; Expansion has done well for UK low cost Subs, don't think we needed a low cost low value BB killer
Thought adding another T Class the way to go
Meteor; Don't like the addition of Jets; but the Me 262 had a wow factor this gets 3 red buzzers
USN; Columbia; Cleveland class is always welcome, but i think we established CA's aren't all that game practical unless
they are killing AIR or DD units; didn't see anything here that was going to make it replace Wichita or Helena
Sterett; This was one DD i've tried to introduce for i few decks; its Torpedo use on a BB is very questionable but its value as
a unit that was tough against DD's and in its use of Torpedo attacks was not.
It could have been better served and deservedly so.
IJN; Hamp; Another Zero that makes 5; is anyone really at 8 pts. going to pick this over the Elite
the only addition is Defend the Flattop the Claude should have had that;; to little to late for to much
A-GO Mogami; again with the operational units; i think the teams feel they have an obligation to make
these units Super Special; Scout Cruiser 2 is 1 to much.
Mi Akagi; It's a touchy thing when you start to redo Originals, i think most of us that have been here awhile know and agree on a few
but now it seems since it was started all is fair game.
This is a bad road to go down; Expansion should be about expansion not correction.
Most tries by expansion to redo originals have failed in making the new and the original work together within the game.
LET THEM BE
Mostly how they fit into the game and how they were done;; of course how they were done is ones preference
What i really like
Canadas Hurricane; first non Russian AV BWF plus Canada gets its Fighter with mission selection to boot
Netherlands; MV Macoma; an RB original nation; gets its first auxiliary and useful with air unit detachment
UK; Achilles; should work very well with Ajax
Implacable; how can we not love those UK 3 cap carriers
Temeraire; I think a great compromise on what the team saw and the loud mouth Foruminians saw
myself included
Melbourne Star; great to see historical units especially Auxiliaries done this well
USN; Taney and England; two nice low cost DD's with nice niches for their Navy
Germany; Atlantikwall;; Different kind of approach to Installation with a great SA
Jaguar;; Did someone just slap me in the head and say a 6 pt DD for Germany
Md 410;; He111, Sm79, they did another 3 die Torpedo PB thats actualy a little different
U-549;; can never be enough Wolfpack subs and Acoustic Torpedo
Italy; Well to me anyway Teams have given certain nations a lot of love [France][did i really write that]
but they always do a great job with Italy, How can you not say these 5 units aren't a hit
Atropo; we added mines and sub killer all for 10 pts
Bolzano; not a big fan of these so called operational but it seems this one needed doing
how it was done is subjective; but to me thumbs up
Roscanna; now thats italian, DD that is
Francesco; 42 pt BB's like this are welcome adds to making for a good mix
Orsecolo; Nice Aux always welcome with a great new SA Convoy Formation
IJN; Myrt; Nice try
Romania; JU87D 10 pt 10 cost Press the Attack DB; I'm changing the roundel to German
Now the ones i thought little of;
The new Nations Turkey; nothing i would put in my pipe
Brazil; not doing the Samba over these
France; Painleve; Fantasy's Fantasy unit, really poorly done don't see any thought process here.
Should have just let it alone at Expert Torpedo [my point being if France is building carriers and is around in 1943]
the SA's should go beyond USN aircraft intervention if your going to make it a Navy than make it its own.
I also believe those SA's hinder Frances playability as an Axis or Allies Unit
UK; Clyde; Expansion has done well for UK low cost Subs, don't think we needed a low cost low value BB killer
Thought adding another T Class the way to go
Meteor; Don't like the addition of Jets; but the Me 262 had a wow factor this gets 3 red buzzers
USN; Columbia; Cleveland class is always welcome, but i think we established CA's aren't all that game practical unless
they are killing AIR or DD units; didn't see anything here that was going to make it replace Wichita or Helena
Sterett; This was one DD i've tried to introduce for i few decks; its Torpedo use on a BB is very questionable but its value as
a unit that was tough against DD's and in its use of Torpedo attacks was not.
It could have been better served and deservedly so.
IJN; Hamp; Another Zero that makes 5; is anyone really at 8 pts. going to pick this over the Elite
the only addition is Defend the Flattop the Claude should have had that;; to little to late for to much
A-GO Mogami; again with the operational units; i think the teams feel they have an obligation to make
these units Super Special; Scout Cruiser 2 is 1 to much.
Mi Akagi; It's a touchy thing when you start to redo Originals, i think most of us that have been here awhile know and agree on a few
but now it seems since it was started all is fair game.
This is a bad road to go down; Expansion should be about expansion not correction.
Most tries by expansion to redo originals have failed in making the new and the original work together within the game.
LET THEM BE
I really wish the Sam got a 1944 date, but that didn't happen. (They finally started production in November of 1944, but a massive earthquake destroyed most the aircraft factories which were clustered in the same area. I would have been fine with stretching the date given the really bad imbalance RB created with USN air. The USN Corsair was just insult to injury IMO.) If the SAM had a 1944 date I would almost never play with 1945 units allowed in a tournament. 
) I have proposed the LN.401 just about every deck and it keeps getting shot down as too much like the Vindicator. The LN.401 was a real naval dive bomber that had operational squadrons and it was French. I don't care if it was too much like the Vindicator. A lot (ton) of aircraft in this game are similar to others or fill the same niche. Plus there is a 100% chance they would have operated Lend-Lease US carrier aircraft off of it if they had stayed in the war, and we can't rewrite the Rulebook to include them for France. So it had to be done with SAs just like RB did it.
