#S7 Veteran Swordfish - Ready for Card

So replying to the ark had me think of this as comparision

Mk2 3TT, no defensive SA
Mk1 2TT, deceptive target
Elite(proposed) 2TT, 1TT at range 1

I dont think veteran/ark royal means a l9t in this discussion. If youre relying in a single squadron being buffed its not ideal.

I simply look at it as a question of managable risk. Eliminating ships AA from the equation makes swordfish a viable option over a second battleship in your fleet. That said, i dont look a sectors and other things a bit abstractly. Thus the range stuff on the jill doesnt factor on my thinking.

I would say the problem with giving the Swordfish the night stuff is that the Albacore already has that, so we are making a worse Albacore.

We need to figure out a way for the Swordfish to be useful in normal, day games...

I would be fine with a leter version personally...

Without creating fantasy units or blowing UK TB/DB stats out of proportion there is no way that they would ever have stood up to the Japanese or US fighters and AA, mainly because in Europe they had control of the seas with the exception of Raiders and Submarine warfare. So they didn't have to invest in more advanced aircraft bombers which were not sent inland. They tended to use long range bombers (aka Patrol Bombers) and land based fighters more so and that's what they invested in during the war. If they had a late war Torpedo Bomber or Dive Bomber that could stand up to anything in the Pacific I'm pretty sure we would have one now.

If we are set on a Swordfish, I don't think you will be happy with any outcome flak, especially sine Harass would be to unbalancing during early war or in the European theater.

The goal we should have is to balance the Brits against the German and Italian units, if you take any of the European Theater countries into the Pacific especially late war you will be fighting an uphill battle.

Just my two cents.

A carrier-based Bomber with Mines and Shadowing sounds really good. In that case you don’t have to worry about shipborne AA at all.

I don’t really know what those numbers mean, but per the probability chart

Escorted
5 AA aborts 46% of the time and destroys 5% of the time
6 dice 57% 10%
7 dice 66% 16%
8 dice 74% 24%
9 dice 80% 32%

And that’s of course if you have enough fighters to counter all the Swordfish. A reasonable build might have 3 defensive fighters. A reasonable 1939 build probably just has 1. If they all are fighting Swordfish they can’t do anything else.

Determination: Whenever this unit would be destroyed, roll a die. On a 5 or higher, the destruction is prevented and this unit remains in the game with 1 hull point

It would need to be modified as it leaves questions as to whether it can be attacked again, make attacks, or would be aborted if successful.

But I would be fine with swapping this out for the shadowing.