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#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Dec 31, 2022 0:40:48 GMT

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Type
Midget submarine
Displacement
35.4 tons surfaced
44.3 tons submerged
Length
15.00 m (49 ft 3 in)
Beam
3.00 m (9 ft 10 in)
Draught
2.05 m (6 ft 9 in)
Propulsion
1 diesel engine, 1 electric motor, 1 shaft
Speed
7.5 knots (13.9 km/h; 8.6 mph) surfaced
7 knots (13 km/h; 8.1 mph) submerged
Complement
4
Armament
2 x 450 mm torpedoes (could be replaced by 2 mines)

Ship Submarine
3 points
1941 italy
Speed 1

TT 1-1

A1 V3 H1

Very Slow - This unit cannot move on the first turn of the game
Submerged Shot

Last Edit: May 2, 2023 23:50:53 GMT by flakstruk

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#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 1, 2023 6:50:15 GMT

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Post by mnnorthstars on Jan 1, 2023 6:50:15 GMT

You could leave it at that, or add

Small Minefield - Instead of moving this unit during the Sea Movement phase, you may choose a local enemy Ship and roll a die. On a 1, that Ship takes 1 damage. Torpedo Defense works against that damage. Destroy this unit after resolving the die roll.

Last Edit: Jan 1, 2023 6:51:20 GMT by mnnorthstars

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raevski Administrator Cooking with gas Posts: 1,569	#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 4, 2023 23:00:32 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by raevski on Jan 4, 2023 23:00:32 GMT Very interesting. I see this as a 2 to a base unit like the mtbs

mnnorthstars Deck E developer Posts: 9,169	#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 5, 2023 1:14:15 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mnnorthstars on Jan 5, 2023 1:14:15 GMT Me too, it’s just that 4 mines is a pretty small minefield.
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#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 5, 2023 3:27:39 GMT via mobile

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Jan 1, 2023 6:50:15 GMT mnnorthstars said:

You could leave it at that, or add

Small Minefield - Instead of moving this unit during the Sea Movement phase, you may choose a local enemy Ship and roll a die. On a 1, that Ship takes 1 damage. Torpedo Defense works against that damage. Destroy this unit after resolving the die roll.

Would it not be better to shoot a torp instead?
You can cause 2 damage and keep the unit.

mnnorthstars Deck E developer Posts: 9,169	#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 5, 2023 4:06:08 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mnnorthstars on Jan 5, 2023 4:06:08 GMT If you’re going to get depth charged, you can do this before you die with no chance of making it to the sub phase.
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mnnorthstars Deck E developer Posts: 9,169	#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 5, 2023 4:06:41 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mnnorthstars on Jan 5, 2023 4:06:41 GMT Or if you got “Ram”med and already died, you have recourse.
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flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 8,403	#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 5, 2023 5:13:27 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Jan 5, 2023 5:13:27 GMT They wouldn't operate in pairs, but the scaling is similar I wonder if they should have concealment give thier size and ability to go unnoticed?

gaz01 Forumini Lieutenant Posts: 558	#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 6, 2023 14:12:30 GMT Theaetetus likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by gaz01 on Jan 6, 2023 14:12:30 GMT Interesting unit. What about coastal concealment?
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flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 8,403	#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 8, 2023 1:57:41 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Jan 8, 2023 1:57:41 GMT Jan 6, 2023 14:12:30 GMT gaz01 said: Interesting unit. What about coastal concealment? That a good thematic one for the black sea

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#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 8, 2023 4:14:57 GMT via mobile

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Jan 8, 2023 1:57:41 GMT flakstruk said:

Jan 6, 2023 14:12:30 GMT gaz01 said:

Interesting unit.

What about coastal concealment?

That a good thematic one for the black sea

Indeed, they got transferred to the Romanians after Italy conceded.

Theaetetus Forumini Rear Admiral Posts: 4,838	#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 8, 2023 18:41:32 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Theaetetus on Jan 8, 2023 18:41:32 GMT Sub Killer is also an option—CB-4 sank Shch-203
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raevski Administrator Cooking with gas Posts: 1,569	#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 8, 2023 20:52:45 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by raevski on Jan 8, 2023 20:52:45 GMT Jan 8, 2023 18:41:32 GMT Theaetetus said: Sub Killer is also an option—CB-4 sank Shch-203 Might give them a niche.

raevski Administrator Cooking with gas Posts: 1,569	#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 8, 2023 20:53:47 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by raevski on Jan 8, 2023 20:53:47 GMT The Romanians used them in harbour defence defending the mine barrages against Soviet subs

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#S15 CB-4 Ready for card Jan 12, 2023 0:21:30 GMT via mobile

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Post by jakk24 on Jan 12, 2023 0:21:30 GMT

IMO we should also consider abilities as for the midget subs on the Chiyoda. Such as „This unit can‘t be attacked by enemy submarines“

Maybe also a one Shot ability for the very limited torpedo storage. The unit must be removed from play after it has made its first attack end of turn and you score victory points.

I also support the idea of coastal tactics for this unit.

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#S15 CB-4 Ready for card

Post by flakstruk on Dec 31, 2022 0:40:48 GMT

Post by mnnorthstars on Jan 1, 2023 6:50:15 GMT

Post by raevski on Jan 4, 2023 23:00:32 GMT

Post by mnnorthstars on Jan 5, 2023 1:14:15 GMT

Post by raevski on Jan 5, 2023 3:27:39 GMT

Post by mnnorthstars on Jan 5, 2023 4:06:08 GMT

Post by mnnorthstars on Jan 5, 2023 4:06:41 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Jan 5, 2023 5:13:27 GMT

Post by gaz01 on Jan 6, 2023 14:12:30 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Jan 8, 2023 1:57:41 GMT

Post by raevski on Jan 8, 2023 4:14:57 GMT

Post by Theaetetus on Jan 8, 2023 18:41:32 GMT

Post by raevski on Jan 8, 2023 20:52:45 GMT

Post by raevski on Jan 8, 2023 20:53:47 GMT

Post by jakk24 on Jan 12, 2023 0:21:30 GMT

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