#S18 Tramp Steamer-Neutral Auxiliary - REVIEW CARD

I think it’s dumb to be able to do both SAs in one turn. Realistically you’d only be able to do one of them since it’s either carrying gold to Canada or troops to Tunis but not both. But I get how a gamey person would want to get to do both for some odd reason even though it makes no sense.

Specific Loadout - This unit can’t use Landing and Vital Cargo on the same turn.

Specific Loadout - This unit can’t use both Landing and Vital Cargo.

Vital cargo would make the most sense.

Most tramp steamers/freighter s had facilties for a limited number of paying passengers, but we are not talking about ocean liners/ troop transports here. Ocean liners were unique for their speed among other things.

I think it should have both but only be able to use one. Otherwise the nations with ships with Landing permanently have an artificial advantage.

Using Both SA's is not going to break the game but either of the 2 additional options MN suggest are fine by me

Okay, so I see that one requires you to remove the unit from the game and the other doesn't. Hmmm.

So, when I look at Hap's spreadsheet it is clear that Landing is an SA always given to a warship or naval auxiliary. Vital Cargo has always been given a a civilian merchant ship. So why wouldn't this unit just get the Vital Cargo SA? The whole intent is to give every nation access to a merchant ship, not a naval auxiliary. I think trying to do both is the problem here.

I agree this is not a power unit. I am just trying to keep it from being confusing or overly convoluted. I have to keep going back to the post with both of the SAs to read them again. They are subtly different and hard to keep straight for me.

They are really intended for two very different end points. One is for a convoy scenario where you reach the other side and it has done its job and is removed. The other is for a beach landing scenario where you anchor off the beach and land you troops once and just sit there until your opponent destroys it or ignores it since it can still only be used once.

I guess with both SAs you could drop off your troops on an island and then proceed to the end of the map to complete the convoy mission.

I understand you what you want to do now, but I think it going to be a very confusing unit for people to understand. And I also understand why mnnorthstars isn't too happy with it now. We are trying to do too much here IMO.

I still think just Vital Cargo 6 makes sense for this unit. Not because of power, but because of KISS and consistency. The "generic" unit in the Rulebook doesn't have any SA's. I think we have usefully improved on that.

But I still say just Vital Cargo 6 makes a lot more sense. But I will go with Sailing Orders if that works.