+Deck G+ Round 2 Nominations (Step 2)

flakstruk
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+Deck G+ Round 2 Nominations (Step 2) Oct 17, 2021 2:16:28 GMT nrnstraswa likes this

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Post by flakstruk on Oct 17, 2021 2:16:28 GMT

Ahoy Mateys,

The team has had an opportunity to review the list and discuss the various questions we're presented by the deck creation process.

Our review threads for the second round nominations will up over the next few days in specifics. The complete list of units we're primarily looking for is

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AR CC ARA La Argentina - Light Cruiser - Argentina

AU CA CAC Boomerang - Fighter - Australia(+1 Wirraway)
AU CV HMAS Sydney - Escort Carrier - Australia (RAN Colossus Class - Carrier - Australia)
AU DD HMAS Barcoo/Gascoyne - Destroyer- Australia
AU DD HMAS Bathurst - Auxiliary - Australia
AU DD HMAS Warramunga- destroyer - Australia
AU DD HMAS Yarra - Destroyer- Australia

BR CC Bahia - Light Cruiser - Brazil

CA AU HMCS Prince Henry - AUX - CAN
CA DD HMCS Iroquois - Destroyer - Canada
CA DD River Class - Frigate- Canada
CA AC B-24 Liberator - Patrol Bomber - Canada/USA

CH CC Ning Hai - cruiser - China
CH DD I Hsien - Destroyer - China

CL CC Chacabuco cruiser Chile

FI AU Jääkarhu - Auxiliary - Finland

FR AC Liore 130 - aircraft - france
FR AC Morane-Saulnier M.S.406 fighter - fra/turkey
FR AC Potez 63- heavy fighter bomber- France/Greece
FR AU Jules Verne - Auxiliary - France
FR CC Colbert/Foch - Heavy Cruiser - France
FR CC Georges Leygues/Jean de Vienne - cruiser - France

GE AC Do.17 - Bomber - GER
GE AU MS Schwabenland - Seaplane Carrier - Germany
GE Au Widder - Aux - GER
GE BB Baden battleship Germany
GE BB Ostfriesland - battleship - germany
GE CC Köln with Fi 282 - Cruiser - Germany
GE CC Niobe cruiser Germany
GE DD T24 - destroyer - germany
GE IN Atlantikwall Sub Pen - Installation - Germany

GR DD Ydra - Destroyer - Greece

IT AC Breda Ba.88 - Dive Bomber - Italy
IT AC CANT 501 - Patrol Bomber - Italy/Rom
IT CB Projected Italian Carrier - Carrier - Italy
IT CC Attilo Regolo - Cruiser Italy
IT CC Bari - cruiser - Italy

JA AC Ann dive bomber +1
JA AC B4N Jean - Torpedo Bomber - Japan
JA AU Akashi - aux - japan
JA BB Setsu battleship Japan
JA CC Ashigara - Heavy Cruiser - Japan
JA CC Ibuki - Heavy Cruiser - Japan
JA CC Kako - cruiser - Japan
JA CC Katori cruiser Japan
JA CC Takao - Heavy Cruiser - Japan
JA CC Yasoshima cruiser China/Japan
JA CV Chitose/Chiyoda - Carrier - Japan
JA CV Katsuragi - Carrier - Japan
JA MTB Suicide boats - MTB - Japan
JA MTB Type T-51b - Motor Torpedo Boat - Japan

NO DD HMNoS Sleipner - Destroyer - Norway

NU IT Shore Battery - Battery - Neutral

NZ AU HMNZS Monowai - Auxiliary - nz

PO AC PZL 37- dive bomber - Poland
PO AC PZL P.11 – Fighter – Poland
PO AU ORP Gryf auxiliary Poland
PO CC ORP Conrad - Cruiser - Poland

RO CC Projected Scout - Cruiser - Romania
RO DD Regale Ferdinand class - Destroyer - Romania

SI AC Mitsubishi Ki-30 "Ann" - Dive Bomber - Siam
SI AC Nakajima Ki-27 Nate - Fighter - Siam
SI DD Phra Ruang - Destroyer - Siam

SP AC I-15/I-16 - Fighter - Spain
SP AC Me109 Early - Fighter - Spain
SP AU Dedalo - Seaplane Tender - Spain
SP CC Navarra cruiser Spain
SP DD Alsedo or Velasco - Destroyer - Spain

SU AC Beriev MBR-2 Seaplane - Soviet
SU AC Sukhoi Su-2 - Bomber - Soviet Union
SU AC Tupolev SB patrol bomber - ussr/spain
SU AC Yak 1 - Fighter - Soviet Union
SU BB Frunze battleship Soviet Union
SU CC Maxim Gorky - cruiser - USSR
SU DD Kiev Class Destroyer-Soviet
SU IN 12” Coastal Installation - installation - USSR
SU SS L Class - Sub - SOV

SW AC B17A - Dive Bomber - Sweden
SW DD HSwMS Klas Horn - Destroyer - Sweden

TU CC Hamidieh- cruiser- Turkey
TU CC Medjidieh cruiser Turkey
TU DD Kocatepe destroyer Turkey

UK AC Armstrong Whitworth Whitley - Patrol Bomber - United Kingdom
UK AC Corsair - (dedicated) fighter - UK +1 NZ
UK AC Hawker Typhoon/Tempest - Fighter - United Kingdom
UK AC Wellington Mk. I - patrol bomber - UK
UK BB HMS Centurion battleship Great Britain
UK BB HMS Malaya - Battleship - United Kingdom
UK BB HMS Resolution or HMS Revenge - Battleship – UK
UK BB HMS St George - battleship Great Britain
UK BB Warspite - battleship - uk
UK CC HMS Adventure cruiser Great Britain
UK CC HMS Dorsetshire- Cruiser-United Kingdom (Cornwall, Cumberland)
UK CC HMS Liverpool - town class light cruiser
UK CC HMS London - Heavy Cruiser - UK
UK CC HMS Superb - cruiser - Great Britain
UK CV HMS Battler/tracker - Carrier - United Kingdom
UK DD Flower Class : France, Canada, New Zealand
UK DD HMS Campbeltown - destroyer - UK
UK DD HMS J/K - Destroyer- United Kingdom
UK DD HMS Starling - Sloop - UK
UK IN Dover Strait coastal Guns - installation - UK
UK IN Maunsell Fort - installation - UK
UK SS HMS Truant - Sub - UK

US AC Martin 139WC (Widely Exported) - Patrol Bomber
US AC P-40 'Flying Tiger'- Fighter US
US AC P-47 Thunderbolt - fighter
US AC Ventura - Patrol Bomber - Australia/NZ
US BB USS Colorado - Battleship - usa
US CC USS Boston CA 69 - Cruiser - United States
US CC USS Denver (CL-58)/ USS Birmingham (CL-62) - Light Cruiser - USA
US CC USS Guam - Cruiser - USA
US CC USS Seattle cruiser US
US CV USS Bennington CV 20 - Carrier - USA
US CV USS Yorktown (CV 10) - carrier - USA
US IN Coastal Defense Battery - installation - USA

US IN Wake Island Coastal Battery - installation - USA
US SS USS Tang - submarine - USA

Of that list, the team agreed to automatically forward these units into the deck list as they represent solitary choices for thier respective nations that had mutiple supporting votes. Coveniently this was a good balance for the ABC nations.

AR CC ARA La Argentina - Light Cruiser - Argentina
BR CC Bahia - Light Cruiser - Brazil
CL CC Chacabuco cruiser Chile
FI AU Jääkarhu - Auxiliary - Finland
GR DD Ydra - Destroyer - Greece
NO DD HMNoS Sleipner - Destroyer - Norway
NZ AU HMNZS Monowai - Auxiliary - nz

These units we're identified as not being forwarded to the next round for various reasons

CH CC Ning Hai -cruiser China
CH DD I Hsien - Destroyer - China
UK AC Corsair - (dedicated) fighter - UK +1 NZ
US IN Coastal Defense Battery - installation - USA
UK IN Maunsell Fort - installation - UK
US IN Wake Island Coastal Battery - installation - USA
US AC Martin 139WC (Widely Exported) - Patrol Bomber
US CV USS Bennington CV 20 - Carrier - USA
US CV USS Yorktown (CV 10) - carrier - USA
UK DD Flower Class : France, Canada, New Zealand
GE IN Atlantikwall Sub Pen - Installation - Germany
SU IN 12” Coastal Installation - installation - USSR
US AC P-40 'Flying Tiger'- Fighter US
UK IN Dover Strait coastal Guns - installation - UK

Last Edit: Oct 17, 2021 2:31:54 GMT by flakstruk

flakstruk
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+Deck G+ Round 2 Nominations (Step 2) Oct 17, 2021 2:29:57 GMT flakstruk likes this

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Post by flakstruk on Oct 17, 2021 2:29:57 GMT

Short explaination of the thinking on the non forwarded units,

Installations: were covered by the neutral gun battery option.

Yorktown/Bennington: duplicated the Hornet

Martin 139: Duplicated the hawk.

China/Flying Tigers: Decision was made that commanders were a large expansion. Which precluded adding another nation.

UK Corsair: Duplicated the hellcat( correction, duplicated the lend lease nature of the tarpon)

Last Edit: Oct 19, 2021 1:54:08 GMT by flakstruk

nrnstraswa Forumini Lieutenant Posts: 614	+Deck G+ Round 2 Nominations (Step 2) Oct 19, 2021 1:21:14 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by nrnstraswa on Oct 19, 2021 1:21:14 GMT Aww... I was excited for Ning Hai. Oh well.
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flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 8,343	+Deck G+ Round 2 Nominations (Step 2) Oct 19, 2021 1:55:00 GMT nrnstraswa likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Oct 19, 2021 1:55:00 GMT Oct 19, 2021 1:21:14 GMT nrnstraswa said: Aww... I was excited for Ning Hai. Oh well. Yaoshima is a japanese option though

nrnstraswa Forumini Lieutenant Posts: 614	+Deck G+ Round 2 Nominations (Step 2) Oct 19, 2021 2:18:26 GMT TrickiVic likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by nrnstraswa on Oct 19, 2021 2:18:26 GMT Excellent, already voted for her in the appropriate thread.
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TrickiVic Forumini Lieutenant Posts: 678	+Deck G+ Round 2 Nominations (Step 2) Oct 19, 2021 5:17:23 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by TrickiVic on Oct 19, 2021 5:17:23 GMT Excited for more minor nation units
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+Deck G+ Round 2 Nominations (Step 2) Oct 19, 2021 20:17:17 GMT nrnstraswa and Theaetetus like this

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Post by gaz01 on Oct 19, 2021 20:17:17 GMT

I'm kinda hoping some of the units with only single votes creep in where required. Italy for example has been considerably condensed because most of its choices only had single votes. The sub voted for them was a good surprise amongst the general repetition of 'sunk without having much impact' and the two corvettes sank multiple RN subs. I think we missed a trick slightly by not having some info for each unit voted. Keppel for example would have done a lot better with its extraordinary record as would several others (Sealion II!). I know I only stumbled over some choices after being surprised by what I was reading. Struggling with a fleet DD for Japan, Kasumi was another good find.

I'm still envisaging the deck slots similar to what's gone before as well, but obviously that's liable for change!

Last Edit: Oct 19, 2021 20:22:00 GMT by gaz01

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flakstruk
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+Deck G+ Round 2 Nominations (Step 2) Oct 19, 2021 22:25:53 GMT

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Post by flakstruk on Oct 19, 2021 22:25:53 GMT

Oct 19, 2021 20:17:17 GMT gaz01 said:

I'm kinda hoping some of the units with only single votes creep in where required. Italy for example has been considerably condensed because most of its choices only had single votes. The sub voted for them was a good surprise amongst the general repetition of 'sunk without having much impact' and the two corvettes sank multiple RN subs. I think we missed a trick slightly by not having some info for each unit voted. Keppel for example would have done a lot better with its extraordinary record as would several others (Sealion II!). I know I only stumbled over some choices after being surprised by what I was reading. Struggling with a fleet DD for Japan, Kasumi was another good find.

I'm still envisaging the deck slots similar to what's gone before as well, but obviously that's liable for change!

Its a definite possibility

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+Deck G+ Round 2 Nominations (Step 2) Oct 29, 2021 21:15:52 GMT

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Post by attackercat on Oct 29, 2021 21:15:52 GMT

I would like to float an idea out there regarding the installations. Yes, I did suggest most of the ones listed there that were not passed on for consideration, but the Heavy Shore Battery is a decent point investment.

Smaller installations such as the Atlantik Wall ones that were already introduced for Germany means that more landing scenarios can be done, and the Wake Island landing or even Guadalcanal or other Pacific Theater landing scenarios would have units and cards of smaller point values to make complete setups from, versus using just one high-power, though good value, shore battery card/unit.

Not at all saying that it's something that's all or nothing, but hey a man can dream, I just like landing scenarios.

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+Deck G+ Round 2 Nominations (Step 2) Oct 29, 2021 21:30:22 GMT

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Post by flakstruk on Oct 29, 2021 21:30:22 GMT

The rationale for removing them from consideration was the inclusion of the neutral shore battery. Like the ones japan and the US already have from the guadacanal campaign.

Im hoping the convoy transport might also get a landing SA so all nations have access to that SA type.

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Post by flakstruk on Oct 17, 2021 2:16:28 GMT

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Post by flakstruk on Oct 19, 2021 1:55:00 GMT

Post by nrnstraswa on Oct 19, 2021 2:18:26 GMT

Post by TrickiVic on Oct 19, 2021 5:17:23 GMT

Post by gaz01 on Oct 19, 2021 20:17:17 GMT

Post by flakstruk on Oct 19, 2021 22:25:53 GMT

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