Post by antshrike on Jul 2, 2021 18:02:29 GMT
I am looking for input on what stats to apply to a 12 torpedo tube arrangement on British cruisers The Enterprise (E) class has the strongest stats and the typical stats are based on 8 or 6 tubes.
Crusiers
16 tubes - 3/2/2 (E class; Enterprise)
12 tubes - 2/2/1 (D class; Dunedin, Dragon]
8 tubes - 2/2/1 (Leander Class [Achilles])
6 tubes - 2/2/1 (York, Exeter class [Exeter]; Arethusa Class [Penelope]; Edinburgh Class [Edinburgh, Belfast]; Dido Class [Euryalus]; Fiji Class [Jamaica]; Bellona Class [Black Prince])
6 tubes - 2/1/1 (Southhampton Class [Sheffield])
I am not sure why Sheffield was given the lower 2/1/1 rating as compared all other cruisers with similar layout were given 2/2/1 (Swizzle pointed out in a 2017 post that "many to be overstated like Exeter could only throw 3 torps to a side" so perhaps that was a vote that Sheffield is the only one with correct 6 tube stats!). I grumble a little at lumping the 6 & 8 tubes into a single stat but can live with it. However, it seems that 12 tubes should have been at least a 2/2/2 as will be the case in the newly released 12 tube USS Somers card. 12 tubes in 4 banks had quite a punch. Indeed, until the E class ships were upgraded to 16 tubes in 1929, the D class had the heaviest torpedo arrangement in the British navy. Had it not been for the weak AA on these ship (AA 4 might have been generous), the D class might have played a larger roll in surface engagements. We have two D class cards. The Dunedin and the Polish Dragon. I believe the Dunedin has an under powered torpedo rank but I can easily fix that with a new card. Ironically, the Dragon, when it was refit in 1942/43, given better AA, and handed over to the ORP landed all its torpedo tubes during the refit. Technically, as a Polish ship with improved AA, the card should not have had a TT rating at all. This came up as a player asked me to give the Dragon stats to another D class ship and I took a closer look at the class. Thoughts before I render a card? Below is my D class cruiser artwork (based on HMS Durban). You can see two banks of torpedoes per side as compared to a single bank for most cruisers.
Crusiers
16 tubes - 3/2/2 (E class; Enterprise)
12 tubes - 2/2/1 (D class; Dunedin, Dragon]
8 tubes - 2/2/1 (Leander Class [Achilles])
6 tubes - 2/2/1 (York, Exeter class [Exeter]; Arethusa Class [Penelope]; Edinburgh Class [Edinburgh, Belfast]; Dido Class [Euryalus]; Fiji Class [Jamaica]; Bellona Class [Black Prince])
6 tubes - 2/1/1 (Southhampton Class [Sheffield])
I am not sure why Sheffield was given the lower 2/1/1 rating as compared all other cruisers with similar layout were given 2/2/1 (Swizzle pointed out in a 2017 post that "many to be overstated like Exeter could only throw 3 torps to a side" so perhaps that was a vote that Sheffield is the only one with correct 6 tube stats!). I grumble a little at lumping the 6 & 8 tubes into a single stat but can live with it. However, it seems that 12 tubes should have been at least a 2/2/2 as will be the case in the newly released 12 tube USS Somers card. 12 tubes in 4 banks had quite a punch. Indeed, until the E class ships were upgraded to 16 tubes in 1929, the D class had the heaviest torpedo arrangement in the British navy. Had it not been for the weak AA on these ship (AA 4 might have been generous), the D class might have played a larger roll in surface engagements. We have two D class cards. The Dunedin and the Polish Dragon. I believe the Dunedin has an under powered torpedo rank but I can easily fix that with a new card. Ironically, the Dragon, when it was refit in 1942/43, given better AA, and handed over to the ORP landed all its torpedo tubes during the refit. Technically, as a Polish ship with improved AA, the card should not have had a TT rating at all. This came up as a player asked me to give the Dragon stats to another D class ship and I took a closer look at the class. Thoughts before I render a card? Below is my D class cruiser artwork (based on HMS Durban). You can see two banks of torpedoes per side as compared to a single bank for most cruisers.