Unofficial Set G: Nation Weightings

flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 8,337	Unofficial Set G: Nation Weightings Apr 25, 2021 2:21:28 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Apr 25, 2021 2:21:28 GMT Use this poll to weight the importance of nations to guide the weighting of slots. Up to 10 selections can be made The UK, US and Japan are weighted double as they largest fleets.

ticat1 Moderator "Ready, Aye, Ready" Posts: 1,363	Unofficial Set G: Nation Weightings Apr 25, 2021 2:40:11 GMT via mobile TrickiVic likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ticat1 on Apr 25, 2021 2:40:11 GMT If there's a new deck, I think it's time to leave Germany and Italy out of it, or at least dramatically cut it back Time to focus more on the minors and neutrals
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flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 8,337	Unofficial Set G: Nation Weightings Apr 25, 2021 2:46:23 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Apr 25, 2021 2:46:23 GMT Italy is a significant naval power with some miles in the tank. A reduction perhaps but not a cut off

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Unofficial Set G: Nation Weightings Apr 25, 2021 5:12:35 GMT TrickiVic and nrnstraswa like this

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Post by mnnorthstars on Apr 25, 2021 5:12:35 GMT

For your consideration, these are the largest warships these nations have left to make:

UK - HMS Howe (KGV class), HMS Resolution (Royal Oak is same class), HMS Indomitable (modified Illustrious class), HMS Erebus monitor
USA - many Essex-class carriers, USS Colorado (West Virginia is same class)
Japan - Izumo/Iwate armored cruiser, Kuma class, Nagara class, Katsuragi (Unryu class), Sendai (Naka), Kako (Furutaka), Ashigara (Nachi)
Germany - Arcona/Medusa AA battery, Z 35 destroyer
France - Lorraine (Bretagne), Gueydon armored cruiser, Duguay-Trouin (Lamotte-Picquet), Colbert (Suffren)
Italy - Taranto light cruiser, Giussano class (Bande Nere), Capitani Romani class (Scipione Africano)
USSR - Maxim Gorkiy class (Molotov), Murmansk (Richmond)
Poland - Conrad (Dragon)
Romania - Regele Ferdinand (Regina Maria)
Finland - Vesikko submarine
Sweden - Drottning Victoria (Gustav V), Fyglia armored cruiser
Norway - Eidsvold (Norge)
Netherlands - Sumatra (Java)
Spain - Navarra light cruiser, Alfonso class (Cervera)
Siam - Sri Ayuthia (Dhonburi)
Brasil - Bahia light cruiser
Argentina - Moreno (Rivadavia), O’Higgins cruiser

If you’re making a card set with ships larger than a destroyer, these nations at least have a candidate.

UK
USA
Japan
France
Italy
USSR
Poland
Sweden
Norway
Netherlands
Spain
Siam, sort of
Brasil
Argentina

Last Edit: Apr 25, 2021 5:33:21 GMT by mnnorthstars

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Post by TrickiVic on Apr 25, 2021 5:23:55 GMT

I agree with Ticat, Germany and Italy should be reduced. And please not another Operational Scharnhorst. Could we put two submarines of the same type in the deck? Like how there was two Tribal Class destroyers in Task Force. I could use some reprints

Japan still has plenty of destroyer and other escort classes needed. Are there any Cruisers left to include? Agano Class off the top of my head

I also voted for Greece, Netherlands, Finland and Poland. Their groups are growing and growing.

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Apr 25, 2021 5:23:55 GMT TrickiVic said:

I agree with Ticat, Germany and Italy should be reduced. And please not another Operational Scharnhorst. Could we put two submarines of the same type in the deck? Like how there was two Tribal Class destroyers in Task Force. I could use some reprints

Japan still has plenty of destroyer and other escort classes needed. Are there any Cruisers left to include? Agano Class off the top of my head

I also voted for Greece, Netherlands, Finland and Poland. Their groups are growing and growing.

northstar just answered my question about Japanese cruisers. I feel slightly embarrassed

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flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 8,337	Unofficial Set G: Nation Weightings Apr 25, 2021 5:35:33 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Apr 25, 2021 5:35:33 GMT To be honest if theres a push to dump a major from a deck id fight it tooth and nail. Decks are meant to have something for everyone. Move a slot sideways here or there yes. Especially for axis minors, sure.

flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 8,337	Unofficial Set G: Nation Weightings Apr 25, 2021 5:36:51 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Apr 25, 2021 5:36:51 GMT Mmn, your list of larger thans is only for ship in service though isnt it?

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Apr 25, 2021 5:36:51 GMT flakstruk said:

Mmn, your list of larger thans is only for ship in service though isnt it?

Yes, it’s quite larger when you consider proposed designs. Those are commissioned ships per Conway’s.

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Unofficial Set G: Nation Weightings Apr 25, 2021 8:30:07 GMT flakstruk likes this

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Post by flakstruk on Apr 25, 2021 8:30:07 GMT

In terms of hypotheticals and op-versions heres a non complete war

Australia - Modernised Australia 1911
Ocean CVL
O-Class Sub

Brazil - HMS Agincourt

France - jeanbart completed
Bearn 1945 Landing Ship
Dixmude (fencer 46)

Greece - 3rd Vassias class destroyer

Netherlands
Karel Doorman I (fencer 46)

Norway hms Gorgon

Poland - Blyscawica 3rd sister

Finland - Vittoria V&W class destroyer

Romania - exHMS Gorgon
Aviation cruiser proposal
Pocket cruiser proposal

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mnnorthstars Deck E developer Posts: 9,162	Unofficial Set G: Nation Weightings Apr 25, 2021 14:09:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mnnorthstars on Apr 25, 2021 14:09:37 GMT USA 1920s South Dakota, USS Illinois (4th Iowa class) UK operational Warspite, “fixed” KGV class without Jammed Mount, HMS Malta CV
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flakstruk Deck E developer Posts: 8,337	Unofficial Set G: Nation Weightings Apr 25, 2021 20:42:50 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flakstruk on Apr 25, 2021 20:42:50 GMT What nation if any is intended by the other vote.

mnnorthstars Deck E developer Posts: 9,162	Unofficial Set G: Nation Weightings Apr 25, 2021 22:06:49 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mnnorthstars on Apr 25, 2021 22:06:49 GMT Denmark is next up, with some cruisers the Germans floated as AA batteries.
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Post by ticat1 on Apr 25, 2021 23:38:20 GMT

For the "major navies" i'd suggest moving more towards the support vessels.

I was looking through my books (what few I have) and for Germany I'd go with

Another Atlantic Wall unit
Sub tender
Fleet tender
Fighter director
1940 type destroyer
Merchant cruiser

Then, if holes still need filling, a sub and a couple planes if you can find some.

There is nothing left for Italy.

If we're looking at including "what if they weren't scrapped in the 20s" or fantasy ships that never even made it past the idea stage, that's too far if you ask me.

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