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Toyama
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NeuralDream's Airforce stats guidelines Apr 14, 2017 10:34:02 GMT

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Post by Toyama on Apr 14, 2017 10:34:02 GMT

Forumini Airforce stats guidelines
(revised after Set II)
By NeuralDream

Copied from the original Forumini forum. I reference these guidelines a lot:

Stats are based almost exclusively on the airframe, but the pilot has a minor influence too. Poor pilots always have worse flight stats (turn, roll, climb and often dive are usually -1). All other pilot levels seem to have the same stats.

The pilot has stronger influence on the special abilities.

ATTACK
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4x 20mm + 2x7.92mm (FW190A2?) = 9 / 7 / 5
1x 20mm Hispano M2(C) + 4x .50in (P-38J) = 8 / 6 / 5
4x 20mm Hispano II (Typhoon Ib) = 8 / 6 / 4
6x .50in (F4F4 wildcat, P-51D, F4U) = 8 /6 / 4
2x 20mm + 2x .50in (Spit IX) = 8 / 6 / 3
2x 20mm MG151/20 + 2x 13mm (190D) = 7 / 5 / 4
2x .50in + 4x 7.7mm + 37mm Cannon (P-39D2) = 7 / 5 / 3 + Heavy Cannon SA
2x .50in + 4x 7.7mm (P-40B, P-40C) = 7 / 5 / 3
2x 20mm ShVAK + 2x 7.62mm ShKAS (IL2, 1942) = 7 / 5 / 3
1x 20mm + 4x 7.92mm (BF109E-3) = 7 / 4 / 3
2x 20mm Type 99 + 2x 7.7mm (A6M2-21, A6M3) = 7 / 4 / 2
4x .50in or equiv. (P51B, P51C, F4F3, FM-1, Ki-44, Ki-61, B-239) = 6 / 5 / 3
1x 20mm Hispano HS404 + 4x 7.5mm (D520) = 6 / 4 / 3
Unspecified Soviet field mod with less than the original 2x 12.7 mm + 4 x 7.7mm + 37mm Cannon (P-39N) = 6 / 4 / 2 + Heavy Cannon SA
2× 20 mm ShVAK (La-5FN) = 6 / 4 / 2
8x 7.7mm (Spit I, Fulmar II) = 6 / 4 / 2
6x 7.92mm (IAR80A) = 5 / 3 / 2
2x 12.7mm + 2x 7.7mm (Re2001FalcoII, Re2001CB) = 5 / 3 / 2
1x 20mm + 1x 12.7mm (Yak1) = 5 / 3 / 2
1x 20mm + 2x 7.92mm (BF109G2) = 5 / 3 / 2
1x 15mm + 2x 7.92mm (BF109F2) = 5 / 3 / 2 - A bit generous
2x .50in + 1x 7.7mm (Buffalo I) = 5 / 3 / 2
1x 20mm + 2x 7.5mm (MS.406) = 4 / 3 / 2
4x 7.7mm (I-16 type 10 [and early Type 24?]) = 4 / 3 / 2
2x 12.7mm (Ki-43) = 4 / 3 / 2
2x 12.7mm (MC.200) = 4 / 3 / - A bit harsh; reflects weaker Italian guns
2x 7.92mm (Ju87B-2) = 3 / 2 / -

SPEED / HI-SPEED (uses only max speed at optimal altitude)
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707 km/h (P51C, FW190D) = 2-4 / 5-7
681 Km/h (P38J) = 2-4 / 5-7
671 km/h (F4U) = 2-4 / 5-7
665 km/h (BF109G2) = 2-4 / 5-6
663 km/h (TyphoonIb) = 2-4 / 5-6
657 km/h (Spit IX) = 2-4 / 5-6
648 km/h (La5FN) = 2-4 / 5-6
615 km/h (BF109F2) = 2-4 / 5-6
602 km/h (MC.202) = 2-4 / 5-6
591 km/h (SpitfireI) = 2-4 / 5
570 km/h (Ki61, P40B, P40C, TomahawkII) = 2-4 / 5
564 km/h (BF109E) = 2-3 / 4-5
550 km/h (Re2001) = 2-3 / 4-5
541 km/h (BF110C) = 2-3 / 4-5
530 km/h (A6M2-21) = 2-3 / 4-5
525 km/h (F4F3) = 2-3 / 4 + Full power 5
515 km/h (F4F4) = 2-3 / 4
515 km/h (HurricaneI) = 2-3 / 4
510 km/h (IAR80A) = 2-3 / 4
504 km/h (MC200) = 2-3 /4
500 km/h (B239) = 2-3 / 4
496 km/h (Ki43-Ic) = 2-3 / 4
486 km/h (MS406) = 2-3 / 4
448 km/h (I16Type10: China) = 2-3 / -
438 km/h (FulmarII) = 2 / 3
410 km/h (IL2) = 2 / - + Full power 3
385 km/h (Ju87B2) = ?? 1-2 / - + Full power 3 (presumably the 1-2 is due to manoeuvrability at low speeds)

TURN
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15.0s Ki43Ic Vet - 7
16.9s A6M2-21 Vet/Ace - 6
17.3s A6M3 Poor/Ave - 5 / 6
17.8s Spit HF.IX Ave/Vet - 5
18.6s Hurri I Ave/Vet - 5
18.6s La5FN Ace - 5
18.8s Buffalo I Poor - 4
19.8s P39-N Vet - 4
19.9s P39-D Poor - 3
19.9s Ju87B2 Ave - 4
20.0s P40C Vet - 4
20.5s P40B Poor/Ave (TomahawkII) - 3 / 4
20.8s Bf109G Ace - 4
21.0s Fulmar II Ave (Fulmar I value) - 4
21.99s Ki61 Ave/Ace (ki61I-Hei?) - 4
22.2s IAR80A Ave - 5
22.6s F4U-1 (1C?) Ave/Vet - 4
23.5s Bf109E Ave/Ace - 4
23.8s P-51B/C Ave/Ace - 4
24.0s FW190A Ave/Vet/Ace - 4
24.8s P51D Vet - 4
26.0s P38J Ace - 4
27.9s IL2 Ave - 3
32.6s Bf110C Ave - 1

ROLL - Probably based on max deg./s
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40 deg/s BF110C Ave - 2
55 deg/s Typhoon Ib Ave/Vet - 3
56 deg/s A6M2 Vet/Ace - 3 / 4
65 deg/s Hurri I Ave/Vet - 4
66 deg/s Spit I Ace - 4
69 deg/s F4F Wildcat Ave/Vet - 4
75 deg/s P39-D Poor - 3
90 deg/s P-51B/C Ave/Ace - 4
95 deg/s P40C Vet - 5
130 (estim.) deg/s FW190D Poor/Vet - 4 / 5
162 deg/s FW190A Ave/Vet/Ace - 6

CLIMB
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09.4 m/s Fulmar II Ave - 1
11.2 m/s F4F Wildcat Ave/Vet - 2
11.7 m/s Ju87B2 Ave - 2

12.5 m/s Spit I Ace - 4
13.0 m/s French MS406 Poor - 3
13.0 m/s P40C Vet - 3
13.1 m/s IL2 Ave - 3
13.4 m/s Hurri I Ave/Vet - 3
13.4 m/s C200 Poor/Vet - 4
13.8 m/s P39-D Poor - 3
14.0 m/s Yak1 Poor/Vet - 3 / 4
14.4 m/s Buffalo I Poor - 3
14.7 m/s P39-N Vet - 4
15.2 m/s A6M2 Vet/Ace - 5
15.2 m/s F4U-1 Ave/Vet - 5
16.7 m/s La5FN Ace - 6
16.8 m/s FW190D Poor/Vet - 4 / 5
16.8 m/s Ki43Ic(?) Vet - 5
16.9 m/s Bf109F Vet - 5
17.5 m/s A6M3 Poor/Ave - 4 / 5
17.8 m/s P51D Vet - 6
19.6 m/s Spit HF.IX Ave/Vet - 7
20.0 m/s Ki44 Vet - 7
20.5 m/s P38J Ace - 7

DIVE
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2 (A6M2-21)
3 (MC.200)
4 (Yak-1)
4 (SpitfireI) - presumably due to carburetor engine?
5 (BF109E, wildcat, SpitIX)
6 (P-40C)

ARMOR / VITAL ARMOR
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(According to R.B.) Based on armor and ruggedness of construction
- Sturdy effectively adds + 0.5 to Armor
- Rugged effectively adds + 0.5 to Vital

2/5 (A6M2-21, A6M3, MS406, Ki43)
2/5 + Absorb Punishment (B239)
2/6.5 (MC.200)
3/5 (BF109E, Yak-1, I-16, D520, Re2001CB)
3/6 (SpitI, SpitIX, Ki61 Ace, Ki44, IAR80A, Re2001FalcoII)
3/6 + Absorb Punishment (Buffalo I)
3.5/6 (Ki 61 Tony)
3/7 (P-38J, P-51, Ju87B2)
3/7.5 (Fulmar II)
3.5/7 (La5FN)
3/8 (BF110C)
4/7 (P-40C, wildcats, P-39, TyphoonIB, FW190A, FW190D)
4/7.5 (Corsairs)
5/8 (IL2)

HITS
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(According to R.B.) Based on sheer size and weight

Hits 2
empty weight: 1,490kg, length 6.13m (I-16)
empty weight: 1,680kg, length 9.06m (A6M2-21)
empty weight: 1,893kg, length 8.17m (MS.406)
empty weight: 1,964kg, length 8.25m (MC.200)
empty weight: 1,580kg, length 8.82m (Ki43-Ic variant??)
empty weight: 1,717kg, length 7.92m (B-239)
empty weight: 1,617kg, length 8.97m (IAR80A)

Hits 3
empty weight: 2,287 kg, length 8.03m (BuffaloI)
empty weight: 1,900kg, length 8.64m (BF109E)
empty weight: 1,953kg, length 9.12m (SpitI)
empty weight: 2,123kg, length 8.60m (D520)
empty weight: 2,394kg, length 8.50m (Yak-1)
empty weight: 2,495 kg, length 8.36m (Re2001)
empty weight: 2,105kg, length 9.45m (Ki44)
empty weight: 2,309kg, length 9.47m (SpitIX)
empty weight: 2,425kg, length 9.50m (P-39)
empty weight: 2,605 kg, length 8.67m (La-5FN)
empty weight: 2,674kg, length 8.80m (Wildcats)
empty weight: 2,646kg, length 9.67m (P-40C)
empty weight: 3,465 kg, length 9.83m (P-51D)
empty weight: 4,010 kg, length 9.73m (TyphoonIB)
empty weight: 4,070 kg, length 10.10m (F4U)
empty weight: 3,205 kg, length 11.00m (Ju87B2)
empty weight: 3,182kg, length 12.25m (FulmarII)

Hits 4
empty weight: 4,200 kg, length 11.60m (IL2)
empty weight: 4,500kg, length 12.20m (BF110C)
empty weight: 5,800kg, length 11.50m (P-38J)

PILOT LEVEL (in terms of personal dogfighting ability and based solely on number of kills at the time of the card's date)
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"Legend" >= 35 kills
Ace 5 - 34 kills
Veteran (3 - 4 kills)
Average - most pilots
Rookie - e.g. for late-war Japanese and German teenagers

Last Edit: Apr 14, 2017 10:36:11 GMT by Toyama

Toyama
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NeuralDream's Airforce stats guidelines Apr 14, 2017 10:35:25 GMT

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Post by Toyama on Apr 14, 2017 10:35:25 GMT

(airforce stats part 2)

The stats below include a very small number of corrections of the most obvious WoTC errors.

Sometimes there is and sometimes there isn't a difference between poor/ave and vet/ace depending on how close the unit was to the edge of the stat brackets.

The stats that are estimates or corrections are in italics.

The costs would depend on abilities too, so these are rough estimates based on what we have seen in set II, and include adjustments of set I units.

For custom cards of legend pilots, I suggest using the base stats of aces plus extra SAs.

JAPANESE SPEC

Type - SPEED - ATK - ARMOR - TURN - ROLL - CLIMB - DIVE - COST

A6M2-21 (poor) - 2-4/5 - 7/4/2 - 2/5/2 - 5 - 2 - 4 - 2 - 20-22
A6M2-21 (ave) - 2-4/5 - 7/4/2 - 2/5/2 - 6 - 3 - 4 - 2 - 25-28
A6M2-21 (vet) - 2-4/5 - 7/4/2 - 2/5/2 - 6 - 3 - 5 - 3 - 32
A6M2-21 (ace) - 2-4/5 - 7/4/2 - 2/5/2 - 6 - 4 - 5 - 3 - 37

A6M3-32 (poor) - 2-4/5 - 7/4/2 - 2/5/2 - 5 - 3 - 4 - 3 - 22
A6M3-32 (ave) - 2-4/5 - 7/4/2 - 2/5/2 - 6 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 31 (due to expensive escort SA)
A6M3-32 (vet) - 2-4/5 - 7/4/2 - 2/5/2 - 6 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 33
A6M3-32 (ace) - 2-4/5 - 7/4/2 - 2/5/2 - 6 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 38

Ki-43-Ic (poor) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 2/5/2 - 6 - 4 - 4 - 2 - 17-18
Ki-43-Ic (ave) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 2/5/2 - 7 - 5 - 5 - 2 - 22
Ki-43-Ic (vet) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 2/5/2 - 7 - 5 - 5 - 2 - 29
Ki-43-Ic (ace) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 2/5/2 - 7 - 5 - 5 - 2 - 35-36

Ki-61-I-Hien (poor) - 2-4/5 - 6/5/3 - 3/6/3 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 25
Ki-61-I-Hien (ave) - 2-4/5 - 6/5/3 - 3/6/3 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 33
Ki-61-I-Hien (vet) - 2-4/5 - 6/5/3 - 3/6/3 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 38-39
Ki-61-I-Hien (ace) - 2-4/5 - 6/5/3 - 3/6/3 - 4 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 46

Ki-44-IIb (poor) - 2-4/5-6 - 6/5/3 - 3/6/3 - 2 - 4 - 6 - 3 - 25-27
Ki-44-IIb (ave) - 2-4/5-6 - 6/5/3 - 3/6/3 - 3 - 5 - 6 - 4 - 35
Ki-44-IIb (vet) - 2-4/5-6 - 6/5/3 - 3/6/3 - 3 - 5 - 7 - 4 - 42
Ki-44-IIb (ace) - 2-4/5-6 - 6/5/3 - 3/6/3 - 3 - 5 - 7 - 4 - 47-48

FRENCH SPEC

MS.406 (poor) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 2/5/2 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 15
MS.406 (ave) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 2/5/2 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 20
MS.406 (vet) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 2/5/2 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 24
MS.406 (ace) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 2/5/2 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 30

D.520 (poor) - 2-3/4* - 6/4/3 - 3/5/3 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 2 - 24
D.520 (ave) - 2-3/4* - 6/4/3 - 3/5/3 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 3 - 34
D.520 (vet) - 2-3/4* - 6/4/3 - 3/5/3 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 3 - 37
D.520 (ace) - 2-3/4* - 6/4/3 - 3/5/3 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 3 - 40

ITALIAN SPEC

C.200 (poor) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/- - 2/6/2 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 2 - 16
C.200 (ave) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/- - 2/6/2 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 19
C.200 (vet) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/- - 2/6/2 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 23
C.200 (ace) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/- - 2/6/2 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 27

C.202 (poor) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 24-26
C.202 (ave) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 32
C.202 (vet) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 37-39
C.202 (ace) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 45

Re.2001 Serie I Falco II (poor) - 2-3/4-5 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 22-26
Re.2001 Serie I Falco II (ave) - 2-3/4-5 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 31
Re.2001 Serie I Falco II (vet) - 2-3/4-5 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 33 [prob. a bit undercosted]
Re.2001 Serie I Falco II (ace) - 2-3/4-5 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 42-43

Re.2001 Serie IV CB (poor) - 2-3/4-5 - 5/3/2 - 3/5/3 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 22-24
Re.2001 Serie IV CB (ave) - 2-3/4-5 - 5/3/2 - 3/5/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 29
Re.2001 Serie IV CB (vet) - 2-3/4-5 - 5/3/2 - 3/5/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 36-38
Re.2001 Serie IV CB (ace) - 2-3/4-5 - 5/3/2 - 3/5/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 41-43

SOVIET SPEC

Yak-1 (poor) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/5/3 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 22
Yak-1 (ave) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/5/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 29-32
Yak-1 (vet) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/5/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 37
Yak-1 (ace) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/5/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 42

P-39N Lend Lease (poor) - 2-4/5 - 6/4/2 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 22-25
P-39N Lend Lease (ave) - 2-4/5 - 6/4/2 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 28-32
P-39N Lend Lease (vet) - 2-4/5 - 6/4/2 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 39
P-39N Lend Lease (ace) - 2-4/5 - 6/4/2 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 47

La-5FN (poor) - 2-4/5-6 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 27
La-5FN (ave) - 2-4/5-6 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 5 - 33-35
La-5FN (vet) - 2-4/5-6 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 5 - 40-42
La-5FN (ace) - 2-4/5-6 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 4 - 53

IL-2 (1942) (poor) - 2/-* - 7/5/3 - 5/8/4 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 32
IL-2 (1942) (ave) - 2/-* - 7/5/3 - 5/8/4 - 3 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 37
IL-2 (1942) (vet) - 2/-* - 7/5/3 - 5/8/4 - 3 - 2 - 3 - 4 - ?44?
IL-2 (1942) (ace) - 2/-* - 7/5/3 - 5/8/4 - 3 - 2 - 3 - 4 - ?50? - Vet/Ace bomber pilots need playtesting

I-16 Type 10 (poor) - 2-3/- - 4/3/2 - 3/5/2 - 5 - 5 - 2 - 2 - 18
I-16 Type 10 (ave) - 2-3/- - 4/3/2 - 3/5/2 - 5 - 6 - 3 - 2 - 22
I-16 Type 10 (vet) - 2-3/- - 4/3/2 - 3/5/2 - 6 - 6 - 3 - 2 - 26
I-16 Type 10 (ace) - 2-3/- - 4/3/2 - 3/5/2 - 7 - 7 - 4 - 3 - 32

I-16 Type 24, 4x7.7mm (poor) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 3/5/2 - 5 - 5 - 2 - 2 - 19
I-16 Type 24, 4x7.7mm (ave) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 3/5/2 - 5 - 6 - 3 - 2 - 23
I-16 Type 24, 4x7.7mm (vet) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 3/5/2 - 5 - 6 - 3 - 2 - 27
I-16 Type 24, 4x7.7mm (ace) - 2-3/4 - 4/3/2 - 3/5/2 - 6 - 7 - 4 - 3 - 33

I-16 Type 24, 2x20mm + 2x7.7mm (poor) - 2-3/4 - 7/5/3 - 3/5/2 - 5 - 5 - 2 - 2 - 23
I-16 Type 24, 2x20mm + 2x7.7mm (ave) - 2-3/4 - 7/5/3 - 3/5/2 - 5 - 6 - 3 - 2 - 28
I-16 Type 24, 2x20mm + 2x7.7mm (vet) - 2-3/4 - 7/5/3 - 3/5/2 - 5 - 6 - 3 - 2 - 34
I-16 Type 24, 2x20mm + 2x7.7mm (ace) - 2-3/4 - 7/5/3 - 3/5/2 - 6 - 7 - 4 - 3 - 42

BRITISH SPEC

Typhoon Mk.IB (poor) - 2-4/5-6 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 30
Typhoon Mk.IB (ave) - 2-4/5-6 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 5 - 40 [due to Close Support SA]
Typhoon Mk.IB (vet) - 2-4/5-6 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 5 - 43
Typhoon Mk.IB (ace) - 2-4/5-6 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 52

Hurricane Mk.I 1939 (poor) - 2-3/4 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 2 - 23
Hurricane Mk.I 1939 (ave) - 2-3/4 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 27
Hurricane Mk.I 1939 (vet) - 2-3/4 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 31
Hurricane Mk.I 1939 (ace) - 2-3/4 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 38

Spitfire F Mk.IX (poor) - 2-4/5-6 - 8/6/3 - 3/6/3 - 4 - 4 - 6 - 4 - 35
Spitfire F Mk.IX (ave) - 2-4/5-6 - 8/6/3 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 4 - 7 - 5 - 47 [possibly overpriced]
Spitfire F Mk.IX (vet) - 2-4/5-6 - 8/6/3 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 4 - 7 - 5 - 50
Spitfire F Mk.IX (ace) - 2-4/5-6 - 8/6/3 - 3/6/3 - 6 - 5 - 7 - 5 - ??

Spitfire Mk.Ia (poor) - 2-4/5 - 6/4/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 24-27
Spitfire Mk.Ia (ave) - 2-4/5 - 6/4/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 31
Spitfire Mk.Ia (vet) - 2-4/5 - 6/4/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 38
Spitfire Mk.Ia (ace) - 2-4/5 - 6/4/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 46

Fulmar Mk.II (poor) - 2/3 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 3 - 2 - 1 - 3 - 20
Fulmar Mk.II (ave) - 2/3 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 3 - 1 - 3 - 26
Fulmar Mk.II (vet) - 2/3 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 3 - 1 - 3 - 32
Fulmar Mk.II (ace) - 2/3 - 6/4/2 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 3 - 1 - 3 - 38

ROMANIAN SPEC

IAR-80A (poor) - 2-3/4 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/2 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 3 - 19
IAR-80A (ave) - 2-3/4 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/2 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 25
IAR-80A (vet) - 2-3/4 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/2 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 31
IAR-80A (ace) - 2-3/4 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/2 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 36

GERMAN SPEC

BF109E-3 (poor) - 2-3/4-5 - 7/4/3 - 3/5/3 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 23
BF109E-3 (ave) - 2-3/4-5 - 7/4/3 - 3/5/3 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 31
BF109E-3 (vet) - 2-3/4-5 - 7/4/3 - 3/5/3 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 36
BF109E-3 (ace) - 2-3/4-5 - 7/4/3 - 3/5/3 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 5 - 42

BF109F-2 (poor) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 26
BF109F-2 (ave) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 3 - 32
BF109F-2 (vet) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 3 - 38
BF109F-2 (ace) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 4 - 44

BF109G-2 (poor) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/7/3 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 28
BF109G-2 (vet) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 5 - 34
BF109G-2 (vet) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 5 - 40
BF109G-2 (ace) - 2-4/5-6 - 5/3/2 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 7 - 5 - 52

BF110C (poor) - 2-3/4-5 - 8-6-4 - 3-8-4 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 4 - 27
BF110C (ave) - 2-3/4-5 - 8-6-4 - 3-8-4 - 1 - 2 - 2 - 5 - 32
BF110C (vet) - 2-3/4-5 - 8-6-4 - 3-8-4 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 5 - 39
BF110C (ace) - 2-3/4-5 - 8-6-4 - 3-8-4 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 5 - 46 - Vet/Ace Bombers need to be playtested

Ju87B-2 (poor) - 1-2/-* - 3/2/- - 3/7/3 - 3 - 2 - 1 - 5 - 18
Ju87B-2 (ave) - 1-2/-* - 3/2/- - 3/7/3 - 4 - 2 - 2 - 6 - 20
Ju87B-2 (vet) - 1-2/-* - 3/2/- - 3/7/3 - 4 - 2 - 2 - 6 - 23
Ju87B-2 (ace) - 1-2/-* - 3/2/- - 3/7/3 - 4 - 2 - 3 - 6 - 26 - Vet/Ace Bombers need to be playtested----Highly recommended you don't make anything other than the average here. The poor pilot potentially puts up the same number of VPs, though I suppose you could adjust the SA to adjust the costs. The Veteran and Aces don't really gain any "kill" benefits, they are just harder to kill themselves, so I don't see a huge cost increase here either.

FW190A-2 and -4 (poor) - 2-4/5-6 - 9/7/5 - 4/7/3 - 3 - 5 - 3 - 4 - 38
FW190A-2 and -4 (ave) - 2-4/5-6 - 9/7/5 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 6 - 4 - 5 - 44
FW190A-2 and -4 (vet) - 2-4/5-6 - 9/7/5 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 6 - 4 - 5 - 55
FW190A-2 and -4 (ace) - 2-4/5-6 - 9/7/5 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 6 - 4 - 5 - 62
Only noticeable difference is that the -4 has the MW50 methanol boost SA.

FW190D-9 (poor) - 2-4/5-7 - 7/5/4 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 36
FW190D-9 (ave) - 2-4/5-7 - 7/5/4 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 42
FW190D-9 (vet) - 2-4/5-7 - 7/5/4 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 53
FW190D-9 (ace) - 2-4/5-7 - 7/5/4 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 60

AMERICAN SPEC

P-40B (poor) - 2-4/5 - 7/5/3 - 3/7/3 - 3 - 4 - 2 - 5 - 25
P-40B (ave) - 2-4/5 - 7/5/3 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 3 - 6 - 34
P-40B (vet) - 2-4/5 - 7/5/3 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 3 - 6 - 40
P-40B (ace) - 2-4/5 - 7/5/3 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 6 - 48

P-40C/Tomahawk IIB (poor) - 2-4/5 - 7/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 3 - 4 - 2 - 5 - 27
P-40C/Tomahawk IIB (ave) - 2-4/5 - 7/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 3 - 6 - 36
P-40C/Tomahawk IIB (vet) - 2-4/5 - 7/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 3 - 6 - 42
P-40C/Tomahawk IIB (ace) - 2-4/5 - 7/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 6 - 50

P-51B/C (poor) - 2-4/5-7 - 6/5/3 - 3/7/3 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 30
P-51B/C (ave) - 2-4/5-7 - 6/5/3 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 5 - 39
P-51B/C (vet) - 2-4/5-7 - 6/5/3 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 5 - 41
P-51B/C (ace) - 2-4/5-7 - 6/5/3 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 5 - 47

Note that the P51B/C Average has the expensive Escort SA. It is nowhere near being 39 points without that SA.

P-51D (poor) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/4 - 3/7/3 - 3 - 3 - 5 - 5 - 34
P-51D (ave) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/4 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 4 - 6 - 6 - 40
P-51D (vet) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/4 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 4 - 6 - 6 - 48
P-51D (ace) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/4 - 3/7/3 - 4 - 4 - 6 - 6 - 56

P-38J (poor) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/5 - 3/7/4 - 3 - 3 - 5 - 3 - 37
P-38J (ave) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/5 - 3/7/4 - 4 - 4 - 6 - 4 - 44
P-38J (vet) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/5 - 3/7/4 - 4 - 4 - 6 - 4- 55
P-38J (ace) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/5 - 3/7/4 - 4 - 4 - 7 - 4 - 63

F4U-1 (poor) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 36
F4U-1 (ave) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 43
F4U-1 (vet) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 54
F4U-1 (ace) - 2-4/5-7 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 62

F4F-3 (poor) - 2-3/4* - 6/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 4 - 25
F4F-3 (ave) - 2-3/4* - 6/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 2 - 5 - 32
F4F-3 (vet) - 2-3/4* - 6/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 2 - 5 - 39
F4F-3 (ace) - 2-3/4* - 6/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 5 - 46

F4F-4 (poor) - 2-3/4 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 4 - ??
F4F-4 (ave) - 2-3/4 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 2 - 5 - ??
F4F-4 (vet) - 2-3/4 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 2 - 5 - 35
F4F-4 (ace) - 2-3/4 - 8/6/4 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 5 - ??

FM-1 (poor) - 2-3/4 - 6/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 4 - 25
FM-1 (ave) - 2-3/4 - 6/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 2 - 5 - 32
FM-1 (vet) - 2-3/4 - 6/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 2 - 5 - 39
FM-1 (ace) - 2-3/4 - 6/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 5 - 46

P-39D (poor) - 2-3/4-5 - 7/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 27
P-39D (ave) - 2-3/4-5 - 7/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 35
P-39D (vet) - 2-3/4-5 - 7/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 42
P-39D (ace) - 2-3/4-5 - 7/5/3 - 4/7/3 - 5 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 50
Cost of the P-39D greatly depends upon the ground-attack SA. All of the above will assume 10 point ground attack ability.

FINNISH SPEC

B-239 Finnish (poor) - 2-3/4 - 6/5/3 - 2/6/2 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 16
B-239 Finnish (ave) - 2-3/4 - 6/5/3 - 2/6/2 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 22
B-239 Finnish (vet) - 2-3/4 - 6/5/3 - 2/6/2 - 5 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 28
B-239 Finnish (ace) - 2-3/4 - 6/5/3 - 2/6/2 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 3 - 37

AUSTRALIAN SPEC

B-339 Australian (poor) - 2-3/4 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 20
B-339 Australian (ave) - 2-3/4 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 26
B-339 Australian (vet) - 2-3/4 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 32
B-339 Australian (ace) - 2-3/4 - 5/3/2 - 3/6/3 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 38

markc3711 Forumini Ensign Pacific Air War Nut Posts: 101	NeuralDream's Airforce stats guidelines Jul 1, 2019 19:11:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by markc3711 on Jul 1, 2019 19:11:39 GMT what about the P47? Where does it fall in the stats?

brigman Forumini Admiral Posts: 13,329 Member is Online	NeuralDream's Airforce stats guidelines Jul 6, 2019 21:19:16 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by brigman on Jul 6, 2019 21:19:16 GMT She had 8x .50 cal so gunline probably 9/5/7. Speed was 697 kph, so that's 2-4 / 5-7 High speed. Climb Rating 5 4 HP Armor 4/8?

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