A-20 Boston Douglass Aircraft Company Introduced: January 1941 Wingspan: 61 ft 4 in Length: 48 ft Speed: 339 mph at 12, 400 ft Forumini Speed: 12 Service Ceiling: 25,800 ft Armament: 8 x 12.7mm fixed nose guns, 2 x 12.7mm in dorsal turret, 1 x 12.7mm behind bomb bay, Soviets added their own turrets, 4,000 lb of bombs or DCs, or torpedoes Range : 1,090 miles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Game Stats A-20 Boston Aircraft – Patrol Bomber 1941 MG: 4 Bomb: 7 TT: 1 A/VA/HP: 4/8/1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SAs Defensive Armament Alternate ASW Payload Rugged
Service History By the middle of 1944, the VMF’s air regiments were making it nearly impossible for German shipping to operate in the Black, Baltic and North Seas. For example, from March of 1944 to the end of the war (14 months), the Baltic Sea Fleet’s 8th Aviation Division sunk a total of 229 German vessels. In August of 1944, 62 Pe-2s and 14 A-20Gs of the the 2nd Guard Mine-Torpedo Division raided the German naval base in Constanta, Romania, sinking a destroyer, a tanker, three submarines, and five torpedo boats, and destroying an additional destroyer, an auxiliary cruiser, three more submarines, and a number of ground installations. In an episode much celebrated by Soviet air war histories, Northern Fleet A-20s were involved in the July 1944 sinking of the German AA ship Niobe
-written by Patrick Kinville from vvsairwar.com/2018/01/09/the-douglas-a-20-havoc-boston-in-soviet-service
Here are some other successes credited to the A-20 in the Baltic. Trying to find more about the Black Sea. 26 May 1944 German merchant Ingeborg (895 GRT) sunk by A-20 23 June 1944 German destroyer Z-39 badly damaged by A-20 and towed to Kiel was hit again by Allied bombers. 15 July 1944 German merchant Hochsee (2245 GRT) sunk by 2 A-20 16 July 1944 Germain cruiser Niobe sunk by 4 A-20 bombers (with 7 standard bombs + 2 penetration bomb) 25 July 1944 Finnish minesweepers Vilppula and Mercurius sunk by A-20 with torpedo 17 September 1944 German torpedo boat T-18 sunk by A-20 with 2 bombs and sunk (enemy believe by Il-2) with 30 KIA 22 September 1944 German transport Moero (5272 GRT) (655 soldiers aboard killed) sunk by A-20 bombers and merchants Sumatra (9280 GRT), RO-22/Westplain (4370 GRT) and Malaga (2146 GRT) are damaged. Also the German torpedo boat T-20 was damaged. 24 September 1944 German merchant Meyersledge (828 GRT) sunk by A-20 aircraft. 9 October 1944 Elbing I (466 GRT) sunk by A-20. 11 October 1944 German merchant Olsa (4016 GRT) destroyed by A-20 bomber 26 October 1944 German anti-mine ship MRS-26 destroyed by A-20 bomber, further scuttled by Germans. The largest enemy warship sunk in Arctic by Soviet aircraft. 7 December 1944 German patrol ship V-1606 Julius Fock sunk by A-20 with torpedo, 13 KIA. 14 January 1945 German merchant Mimi Horn (3944 GRT) sunk by A-20 torpedo bomber 15 January 1945 German merchants Doggerbank (257 GRT) and Ferdinand (167 GRT) sunk by A-20 11 March 1945 German merchant Borbeck (6002 GRT) sunk by A-20 torpedo bombers. 12 March 1945 German merchant Gerrit Fritzen (1761 GRT) sunk by A-20 torpedo bombers also submarine chaser UJ-320 was hit by A-20 22 March 1945 German patrol ship Vs.326 sunk by A-20 aircraft. 26 March 1945 German merchants Sassnits (964 GRT) sunk A-20 torpedo bombers. German minesweeper R-145 sunk by Il-2, minesweeper R-260 and patrol ship Vs.310 sunk by A-20 aircrafts 13 April 1945 German merchant Karlsruhe (897tons) sunk by A-20 with torpedo, 970 KIA (was carrying troops). 2 May 1945 German battleship Schlesien was already damaged by a British mine and was attacked by waves of Soviet A-20 (with support of Il-2) aircrafts that hit her 2 bombs. Was scuttled in shallow water by crew. 4 May 1945 German auxiliary cruiser Orion sunk close Swinemunde after taking at least a bomb from A-20.
So no surprise, a lot of smaller units, aux and support ships. Also while the A-20 did carry torpedoes, it seemed more successful with bombs. And I haven't found much about mine successes or ASW attacks. (Shame is the PE-2 and IL-2 were much more successful against subs than the A-20)
Here is the existing IL-4 card Cost-9 Aircraft – Patrol Bomber 1941 Bomb: 8 TT: 2 A/VA/HP: 4/6/1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SAs Excellent Endurance Mines
Mines and the full time torpedo pushed the cost up too high for 4/6/1 bomber with no defensive armament. I would suggest leaving mines off this card, the Soviet don't need two airborne minors. Stick with Bombs as a primary attack. Torps would be nice as well, but that may start pushing the price up. Alt Torps maybe? Leaving them off completely wouldn't be the worst idea. Just leave ASW off, A-20 didn't seem to do it much and the MBT-2 is a good anti sub unit. As far as SA's Defensive Armament is a good choice. Then maybe raider for all the light units is sunk? Or maybe something like combined attack, but a bonus to bombs when paired with a torp attack. A lot of the A-20's attacks also included runs by PE-2s, IL-4s and IL-10's late in the war.
Has press the attack ever been given to a Patrol Bomber? Just another idea, it would make it more dangerous against DD's and Aux, with a fair bit of risk though.
The eight 12.7mm (50 cal) nose guns certainly point to Expert Strafer. Did they all have those in the nose, or just a few specially outfitted that way? It would need a Gunnery Attack in the Attack table. 8 x 12.7mm is more than a Hellcat (6 x 12.7 mm) so a gunnery value of 4 seems right. However, Expert Strafer really isn't much use on an aircraft that has a good bomb attack value. It has a very niche use against ships with the Uniquely Tough SA.
Light Defensive Armament and Defensive Armament are determined by the number of guns on a bomber. I think it takes 5 guns for Light Defensive Armament. I am not sure about Defensive Armament - 7 or 8?
These sank several ships with torpedoes so I think that rates a permanent torpedo attack line.
When was the first A-20 delivered to the Soviets? That should be the year on the card.
My references say the A-20B/C and A-20G/H that the Soviets obtained had 6 x 12.7 mm machine guns in the nose, not 8. That would be a gunnery value of 3 (same as the Hellcat). Other references say they were 30 cal guns, and the Soviets replaced them with faster-firing 7.62 mm (still .30 cal) Soviet made MGs. (Maybe early production A-20As they received?) Bostons/Havocs all had 2 x 12.7 mm (50 cal) guns in the ventral turret and one 50 cal MG rearward firing through a ventral tunnel. So it really only had 3X guns totally committed to air defense, although the forward firing guns would certainly be used as well.
One reference says the Soviet A-20's first went into action in June 1942. First orders for the plane placed by France in 1939. These ended up going to the RAF instead because France fell before they could be delivered.
The Havoc is one of those aircraft that has a long list of changes and add ons;
Do you make it more average or a premium unit in a specific area; lots of factors do determine that.
In Russian hands the later models; so later date;; had the nose covered over and 4 to 6 12.7 MG added and in some cases 4 20 mm canons.
They also added to the rear and Ventral turrets; You know were you can go with that.
It did have some kills with Torpedos but its really wasn't good at it; so 1 every turn or 2 once is a design choice.
The Russians loved it as a Night Intruder; again design choice;; it is listed as Light Bomber -- Fighter we all know the difficulty with the game and that.
Thats why i thought a Night SA could handle it.
But it is defiantly with all forces considered a good Light Bomber, another area you could SA up.
I thought the 'press the attack' idea was a good one.
Perhaps the airfield SA off the greek blenhiem? Austere airfields seem a bit soviet-ey
We have limited Press the Attack to true dive bombers so far. I would personally prefer to keep it that way. There is a big difference between a dive bomber making an almost vertical committed attack, and a standard bomber making a level or glide attack.
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Since most of thosenships sunk and damaged were in Baltic and Black sea, what about the SA that you get 1 more bomb when next to land? Forgot the SA name...
Since most of thosenships sunk and damaged were in Baltic and Black sea, what about the SA that you get 1 more bomb when next to land? Forgot the SA name...
I believe you are looking for Coastal Shipping Attack:
Coastal Shipping Attack: This unit rolls one extra attack die when making attacks against Ships that are in or adjacent to a coast or island sector.